Oppressed people have the right to violence just because they're brown doesn't make them "terrorists," that's actually quite the racist worldview.
Most would disagree, not the least of which are people in that region. Hamas does not have many friends outside of Iran because most governments in the region see them as a destabilizing force. And they are. The
> It is a terrorist state subjugating a trapped population to forced starvation and hunger.
They are using tactics that, if put up to scrutiny in a trial in an international court of law, would probably be considered war crimes and crimes against humanity. The same would probably be true of Hamas' tactics on October 7th, 2023.
> Oppressed people have the right to violence just because they're brown doesn't make them "terrorists," that's actually quite the racist worldview.
Ultimately you have two Semitic peoples - Palestinians and Jews - who want to establish an ethnostate in what used to be Mandatory Palestine. Both have some ancestral title to at least some of the region. Quite a few Jewish subgroups, like Sephardic and Mizrahi Jews, would be considered "brown", to borrow your term.
The way forward will require both parties to recognize each other's right to at least some of the land. It's worth noting that this has not been, and still is not, a view held by either party's governments.
Would you say that this list is incorrect? Or that any attack on civilians in Israel is justified and thus not a terrorist attack?
You sound racist and like you're ok enabling the killing of children. As a doctor Tarek Loubani reported today "I've been to many wars, it has never felt like the war is against children"
And BTW, you don’t know me personally, ad hominem attacks just weaken your argument
Why did you make this assertion?
And what makes them terrorist attacks?
It, frankly, pales in comparison to the number of civilians the IDF has killed and is currently killing. No amount of terrorist attacks can justify starving a population or dropping bombs on the tents of refuges.
Like, I'm sorry, but an attack in 2024 that injures 20 people and an attack in 2023 that kills 1000 is simply not comparable. There are literally 1000s dying weekly right now in gaza. The IDF is daily shooting starving children that go to the Israel's ran aid sites.
Israel does not have the right to commit genocide.
I find the "what-about"ism somewhat tiring at this point. What Israel is currently doing is unconscionable.
This is really not unlike trying to criticize the war crimes committed during the Warsaw uprising or the actions of John Brown. Were they wrong? Yes. Were they understandable? Absolutely. Bringing them up whenever someone brings up the actions of the Nazis or the slave owners is what's problematic. It tries to strip away the humanity of people that are being slaughtered in order to justify the slaughtering.
Did you need to point out that error? You can see why we'd read your response as running cover for a state actively committing genocide, right?
So having a random person on the internet explicitly lying about these experiences and having other people upvoting him kind of grinds my gears.
Now, do you condemn the genocide? Because the problem here is that even though you've experienced a traumatic event, 1000s of Palestinians who never shot at or bombed your family are being shot at, bombed, and starved.
Do you acknowledge the Palestinian right to exist?
I wish what happened wouldn’t have. On oct 7 and in Gaza. But people keep forgetting that we still have living hostages in tunnels under Gaza, and we can’t accept a militarized Gaza anymore.
For the last 2 years there are 2 principles that have not changed. Hamas should return the hostages and surrender its arms. The moment that happens the war is over. It could’ve happened 2 years ago and this thousands of deaths could’ve been avoided. But until that happens, the war continues.
So I don’t believe there’s genocide, as it precludes explicit desire. There’s war. And it will end the moment Hamas want it to.
How do they create a prosperous territory? Israel destroyed Gaza's airport. Israel destroyed the foundations of Gaza's seaport. Israel maintains a maritime blockade of Gaza, so it's not like they can freely engage in trade with other sovereign territories. Israel maintains control over exploitation of Gaza's natural gas deposits.[1][2]
> But people keep forgetting that we still have living hostages in tunnels under Gaza, and we can’t accept a militarized Gaza anymore.
Even before Oct7, there were something like 350-500 Palestinians held in Israeli jails, charged with no crimes but indefinitely detained. They are functionally the same as hostages. Why should Gaza accept Israel holding hostages? Why should Palestine accept a militarized Israel? [3][4]
> Hamas should return the hostages and surrender its arms.
Israel should return its hostages and surrender its arms. And then the leadership should stand trial for genocide and crimes against humanity. We put some Hamas leaders on trial at the same time if you like, I'm fine with that, but the total disarmament of Israel and the prosecution of its leadership will likely be an overwhelming net good for the rest of humanity.
[1] https://www.aljazeera.com/opinions/2021/6/21/palestines-forg...
[2] https://mondoweiss.net/2019/10/the-gas-fields-off-gaza-a-gif...
[3] https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2020/10/un-expert-ca...
[4] https://al-shabaka.org/briefs/the-prison-intifada-supporting...
I don't think brown people trying to save themselves from a concentration camp are terrorists, therefore the terrorist state of israel is not the target of a terrorist group. In fact how could they be when it is them that are invading Gaza for 40+ years.
I know you're not this stupid, you're just racist.
Now, if you'd address the 8,000,000lb elephant in the room that would be great.