Presently we are still a long way from that. In my opinion we at least are as far away from AGI as 1970s mainframes were from LLMs.
I really don’t expect to see AGI in my lifetime.
Presently we are still a long way from that. In my opinion we at least are as far away from AGI as 1970s mainframes were from LLMs.
I really don’t expect to see AGI in my lifetime.
You need both the generalised part of AGI and the ability to self learn. One without the other wouldn’t cause a singularity.
(Artificial General Intelligence says nothing about self-learning though. I presume you mean ASI?)
You can only experience the world in one place in real time. Even if you networked a bunch of "experiencers" together to gather real time data from many places at the same time, you would need a way to learn and train on that data in real time that could incorporate all the simultaneous inputs. I don't see that capability happening anytime soon.
Point is, I think self-learning at any speed is huge and as soon as it's achieved, it'll explode quadratically even if the first few years are slow.
These big models don't dynamically update as days pass by - they don't learn. A personal assistant service may be able to mimic learning by creating a database of your data or preferences, but your usage isn't baked back into the big underlying model permanently.
I don't agree with "in our lifetimes", but the difference between training and learning is the bright red line. Until there's a model which is able to continually update itself, it's not AGI.
My guess is that this will require both more powerful hardware and a few more software innovations. But it'll happen.
And with AGI, you also have the likes of Sam Altman making up bullshit claims just to pump up the investment into OpenAI. So I wouldn’t take much of their claims seriously either.
LLMs are a fantastic invention. But they’re far closer to SMS text predict than they are to generalised intelligence.
Though what you might see is OpenAI et al redefine the term “AGI” just so they can say they’ve hit that milestone, again purely for their own financial gain.
I'm cautiously optimistic of each technology, but the point is it's easy to find bullshit predictions without actually gaining any insight into what will happen with a given technology.
I think this type of thinking is a critical part of human creativity, and I can't see the current incarnation of agentic coding tools get there. They currently are way too reliant on a human carefully crafting the context and being careful of not putting in too many contradictory instructions or overloading the model with irrelevant details. An AGI has to be able to work productively on its own for days or weeks without going off on a tangent or suffering Xerox-like amnesia because it has compacted its context window 100 times.
The real irony is from now on, because people use this magic, it will stay forever. What you can count on in my opinion is that this whole world changes, you don't need to write sw anymore because everything is AI. Hard to imagine, and too far in the future to be relevant for speculations.
- the need to sleep for 1/3 of our life
- the need to eat, causing more pauses in work
- much slower (like several orders of magnitude slower) data input capabilities
- lossy storage (aka forgetfulness)
- emotions
- other primal urges, like the need to procreate
I think we should be treating AGI like Cold Fusion, phrenology, or even alchemy. It is not science, but science fiction. It is not going to happen and no research into AGI will provide anything of value (except for the grifters pushing the pseudo-science).