Flat bread topped with some sort of condements is expected to have independently discovered basically everywhere where they had bread in some incarnation.
The Italians really did their marketing well to get the attribution
The Italians really did their marketing well to get the attribution
we all agree what pizza means at least till the point we need to duke it out over pineapple (which is not pizza)
i'm reminded of an old Lake Wobegon piece about Minnesota tacos (pronounced to rhyme with tack-o). they're made with folded over white bread and with your flannel sleeves rolled up because the juice will run down your arms
Pizza without bread? Pizza without bread.
Pizza? Pizza.
Pizza with pizza? Pizza++.
A quesadilla is a sandwich, though.
It might be casual heresy but it is right.
Granted, Nice is next door'ish to Italy
Pizza with classes?
shuffle emily poem dickinson invariant are.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m002gqz2 41:00
Approx transcript:
> by the 1970s Italy had left its peasant origins behind it had become an industrial consumerist, democracy, and at that point, people start to get nostalgic, and they make the past simple for themselves by turning it into recipes, turning into simple forms. And that has become actually, and this is another novelty, very politicised in recent years. The current government, which of all the various right wing parties have been in power since 1994, is the one that most is most proud of its sort of fascist DNA, if I feel like, it's linked to historical links to Mussolini's fascist Party. They've really wedded themselves to this idea, this food nostalgia, this idea of defending Italian culture against contamination from abroad or wherever it might be.
French winemakers started defending their region names as trademarks in the middle of the last century (picked up steam in 1960s to 1970s) and cheese followed, and the rest of the Europe too. That's where the joke "real Existentialism must come from France, otherwise you just have sparkling anxiety" comes from.
As one rather benign example, Hungary and Slovakia asserted rights to the name of the wine Tokaji/Tokai and in 2007 Friuli Italy had to stop using that name for their wine, a name they had been using for hundreds of years (though the grape is still called Tokai in Italy). In Hungary, the measure of quality/sweetness of the wine (it's a dessert wine) is called Puttonyos. The Italians now call their wine Friulano (not a dessert wine in particular); I want the Italians to start measuring their quality in Putanas just to give the finger to Hungary.
But surely ideas about nationalism and purity can arise at any time?
IIRC the interview was about pasta recipes, and about cultural rather than DOP purity.
I'm not certain about your exact meaning, but I disagree here. Cheese availability in supermarkets is strongly regional even within Europe, and most non-local varieties are either impossible to get, or have to be ordered at 4 times the price outside their regions.
E.g. You can buy perfectly adequate taleggio cheese in an Italian "Lidl" supermarket, but stores (from the same chain!) just 2 car hours away wont have it, and there is no "unbranded" local replacement either.
You do get some very generic kinds of cheese pretty much everywhere ("vegan cheddar", sandwich slices mostly consisting of emulgators and color, Emmental, Gouda, Parmesan, ...) but the availability/selection even for very well-known cheeses (like pecorino) decreases quickly as you leave their regions.
I do agree that a big motivation is to reduce competition and protect regional monopolies basically, but in many cases this also protects and preserves the identity/taste of that product itself, by preventing large international producers from turning distinct regional products into lowest-common-denominator mass-market trash.
you understood what I meant, there is industrial scale dairy and artisanal dairy, and that has implications for health (industrial scale dairy can poison a whole country if it's impure) and a for quality (artisinal scale dairy can have more complex and unique flavors)