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Google Cloud SQL (MySQL)

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With every cloud service google launches I lose more and more respect for their technical prowess. Nothing that they seem to launch is significantly better than the respective AWS offerings, and most of them seem significantly worse.

This SQL service is so limited I have no clear idea what it's even useful for. Google is destroying their brand with these mediocre services. What happened to their standard of not working on projects unless that are at least 2x better than existing alternatives? That standard clearly has gone out the window with the return of Larry Page as CEO. Good luck guys. Must feel pretty bad to be out-geeked by a company that just a few years ago was basically an online bookstore.

Don't worry, it'll be abandoned in a year.

I don't trust google with anything like this. Go with companies that are committed and will not change pricing by 5-10x in couple of years like they did with app engine

Based on that episode, me too. It would take a decade of reading about their excellent customer service before I'd trust them.

I think that's the wrong lesson. Go with companies where you can use open software stacks that you can migrate elsewhere if need be. Google's price hike wouldn't have been very important if you could easily run App Engine code elsewhere. You can never be sure whether a company is going to suddenly screw you, but you can control what kind of code you write.

Migration and cost of migration, how much it cost to take the data out of the provider, if you are using cloud database services.

What do those companies charge?

How difficult would it be to migrate?

I had to close down one of my sites. We basically built too much around google and made it difficult to migrate. Basically had to re-engineer bunch of stuff and it wasn't worth it anymore. With MySQL it's different obviously depending on how easy it is to dump your data and transfer it

Did you ever write about this? Seems like a lesson a lot of people need to hear.

Its just amazing to watch Amazon and Google go at it like this. Reminds me of the Tymshare business model, they rented out mainframes to lots and lots of companies, basically got all of the OpEx paid for and then they could offer their own services that needed a mainframe for less money because they had a free mainframe :-). As long as the capacity you sell leaves enough capacity on the table for your own use this is a really nice business model.

Is anyone here using this? I'm interested in how well this works in practice. I'm finding AWS RDS to be less reliable than I'd like and this seems like a good alternative.

Anyone measured performance on this? I'd be interested if it was similar in speed to a dedicated machine with SSD.

According to the pricing page, the largest instance you can currently provision is one with 4GB RAM and 10GB storage. Not really worth benchmarking at that point.

It's integrated with app engine and other google services, so i.e. you can store references to google drive entities.

That doesn't change the RAM issue, and I don't see anything in the docs indicating you can off-load your MySQL data directories to another Google service anywhere.

It's been around for a while. I think the idea is that it's only for appengine apps, and even then only when a relational database is really useful. I think the key use case is admin/reporting on the back end, with noSQL on the front for scalability

I suppose you could also use it to store key relationships (only), and then periodically update the nosql relationships through the map reduce API also, or build prototypes with it then migrate to nosql when or if you ever need to

Is this brand spankin' new? Can't say I'm terribly familiar with all of Google's dev offerings.

No. Announced October 2011. http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2011/10/google-cloud-sql-your...

Once again lack of Go support in App Engine

I tried this a long time ago, I guess when it was in beta. It worked fine, but I never did anything except kick the tires.

I believe the entire point of Cloud SQL is to provide real SQL support of App on AppEngine.

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