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Jobs data denialism won't fool anyone

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I would like to see other countries methods of hiding their jobs problems, I bet there are some creative and comedic things going on.

India's statistical institutions have been facing similar "challenges" for a while now. Here's a long article that covers multiple issues, but the relevant bit is that multiple people have "resigned" after reporting numbers that were considered unfavorable:

https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2023/06/indias-statis...

Evidence-based reasoning needs data, even if imperfect. It's amzing that we reached a point in our society where that precept needs to be defended or justified.

It will fool the same fools he has been fooling for a while. And that’s a lot.

Naw, some of the fools are flipping [1]. Honestly, if the election happened today I could very easily see him losing.

The problem being that they wanted things like a balanced budget (pretty achievable if you believe Musk could remove 2T from the budget like he claimed) or prices to go down (which Kamela was part of an administration with record inflation). And then they didn't bother to check if Trump 1st term has a track record of either of those things ...

[1]: https://www.natesilver.net/p/trump-approval-ratings-nate-sil...

It’s interesting how I don’t hear the same fearmongering over “price controls” when Kamala dared mention a plan to stop grocery store price gouging from the same people when Trump demanded drug companies lower their prices [1].

[1]: https://www.ft.com/content/5e935b63-5a58-4feb-859b-e50cbfddc...

> "Trump's jobs data denialism won't fool anyone"

> Data denialism will do nothing to help Trump

Have you encountered sunk cost fallacy voters?

Misinformation often isn't about fooling experts or the informed.

Presumably they'd feel the effects regardless.

There is so much pseudo sociology around the idea that individual voters change their preferences over time as the results of their choices evolve. It makes lots of sense, but it doesn’t seem to be true. It appears more like voters simply die and new ones age into their voting times. The parties certainly change, but not the people individually.

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