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> Thankfully, Verizon FiOS rolled out IPv6 support to my area a while ago; otherwise, this whole thing would have ended here.

Hurricane Electric (for one) offers IPv6 tunnels:

* https://ipv6.he.net

You can configure it on your router:

* https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/ipv6_henet

* https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/ipv6-tunn...

* https://docs.opnsense.org/manual/how-tos/ipv6_tunnelbroker.h...

Or an individual host:

* https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/IPv6_tunnel_broker_setup

* https://docs.rockylinux.org/guides/network/hurricane_electri...

* https://genneko.github.io/playing-with-bsd/networking/freebs...

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When I used a small local ISP that did not support ipv6 before switching to AT&T fiber¹ I tried to set this up, but they demand an email on a non-gmail domain, and I wasn't going to pay to set that up nor was I going to use my work email. It's a bad assumption that any non-malicious user cares enough about websites to have one.

1: I'd prefer to have stayed with the local ISP despite the lack of ipv6, but they wanted $8,000 to bring fiber to my new place and that was not worth it with at&t fiber being present.

Gmail is a cesspool, and Google couldn't give the slightest bit of a shit. So does it really surprise you that people who share free services might not want to give those free services to people who use the cesspool service that doesn't care about abuse?

GMail is the most popular email provider by a wide margin. Denying service to the largest cohort of email users is indeed surprising, ridiculous, and self-defeating.

On the contrary: it's a decent filter for folks who would be very unlikely to be able to follow the instructions to set up and maintain their end of the tunnel.

(It also happens to be a fantastic filter for spammers and other abusers. Is it perfect? Hell no. But it is very good.)

I can setup email on my own domain, but I don't want to. It isn't worth my time or money. This doesn't mean that I can't follow tunnel broker instructions.

As the kids once said: No duh.

I wasn't aware that there are only two options: completely self-hosted or Gmail.

I bet if someone made something in between, it might become at least a little popular.

Before Gmail we had Hotmail.

Still works by the way!

Gmail rejects mailing list messages that every other email provider accepts. It is impossible to get a human at Google to look at these issues. That's kinda the worst of all worlds. At least other email providing companies have support teams that can be talked to when things go off the rails.

They told me that they blocked all mass market email providers.

They still do, just that their definition of mass-market is "our size of mass-market": those million-mailers aren't big enough to block. /sarcasm

Turns out you can use your work email and then switch it to your main Gmail after. Something along those lines helped me get around it

These tunnels are blocked by so much of the v6 world, its not worth using in most cases.

- Cloudflare won't route to them. - Streaming services, such as Netflix, block them - They trigger extra validation all over the Internet

I used to have these on select hosts on my network and it was never a good experience.

I love that Hurricane Electric provides this service but I found a few video streaming sites ended up blocking it last I tried a couple years ago.

That said, if it isn’t blocked for the services you use, I found it pretty straightforward to use.

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