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I'm not a fan of usage caps either, but that Reddit post [1] (“You deserve harsh limits”) does highlight a perspective worth considering.

When some users burn massive amounts of compute just to climb leaderboards or farm karma, it’s not hard to imagine why providers might respond with tighter limits—not because it's ideal, but because that kind of behavior makes platforms harder to sustain and less accessible for everyone else. Because on the other hand a lot of genuine customers are canceling because they get API overload message after paying $200.

I still think caps are frustrating and often too blunt, but posts like that make it easier to see where the pressure might be coming from.

[1] https://www.reddit.com/r/ClaudeAI/comments/1lqrbnc/you_deser...

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lets not blame shift anthropic bait and switch to 'bad users' .

Surely they thought about 'bad users' when they released this product. They can't be that naive.

Now that they have captured developer mindshare. users are bad.

> anthropic bait and switch

what was the bait and switch? where in the launch announcement (https://www.anthropic.com/news/max-plan) did they suggest it provided unlimited inference?

so where did 'bad users' come from if users were simply doing what they were allowed to?

why is anthropic tweeting about 'naughty users that ruined it for everyone' ?

What are the commons? Why would a tragedy just appear there or of the blue?

I don't understand your comment.

they launched Claude Max (and Pro) as being limited. it was limited before, and it's limited now, with a new limit to discourage 24/7 maxing of it.

in what way was there a bait and switch?

are you going to answer what the bait and switch was?

Bait : "For 200$ a month you get to use Claude 20x more than what the Pro users are entitled to. You don't know how much exactly though, but neither do we. We may limit your usage with weekly and monthly limits. Sounds good?"

Switch: "We limited your usage weekly and monthly. You don't know how those limits were set, we do but that's not information you need to know. However instead of choosing to hoard your usage out of fear of hitting the dreaded limit again, you've kept it again and again, using the product exactly the way it was intended to and now look what you've done."

so there was no bait and switch, you are just complaining about the lack of transparency around the specific limits that they never once said didn't exist

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