Comment by dh2022 | Hacker News Reader

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Oh but the population will have to sacrifice - there is no way food supply will not be affected. Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes[0] since 2020 it is around 52 million boxes[1]. Beef production is lower because of drought [3].

There are parts of the country which are not insurable because of hurricanes, fires, floods and tornadoes [4]. This is an indicator that anything built will not be around for a long time.

So they will sacrifice-they just know it yet.

[0] https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Public...

[1] https://www.nass.usda.gov/Statistics_by_State/Florida/Public...

[3] https://www.ers.usda.gov/topics/animal-products/cattle-beef/...

[4] https://bankingjournal.aba.com/2025/02/feds-powell-says-some...

> Florida’s orange production in 1996 was 174 million boxes since 2020 it is around 52 million boxes

To be fair, the largest factor in that is citrus greening. The industry sort of threw its hands up and gave up on trying to fight it as far as I can tell.

A lot of orange groves were cut down for construction, 1990-2010.

I drove to Jax last week and saw some of the (long shuttered) orange-themed tourist shops off of 301/21/100. I had nearly forgotten they existed.

Right, I think its cause and effect though. Once greening took hold a lot of groves saw the writing on the wall and shuttered/sold. Thats partially what happened to an iconic grove by me which operated for decades. Now their highway stand is being paved over to put in another storage facility.

You can’t vote the climate out of office. Sure our food supplies may crash, but no one person decided they should crash. No one to blame. No one to punish. This is the political reality. This man made catastrophe will feel sufficiently like an act of god for most people and they will just deal with the reduced carrying capacity of the planet as if it were some divine judgment instead of the tragedy of the commons.

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