Comment by imchillyb | Hacker News Reader

Comment by imchillyb | Hacker News Reader

Removal of occupants from West Bank and Gaza, completely, was always the overall goal here. Israel doesn't seem to care overly much how this occurs, but they're making it happen. The goal is almost reached.

There will be no Palestine. Egypt doesn't want the refugees. Jordan doesn't want the refugees. Qatar doesn't want the refugees. UAE doesn't want the refugees. Syria doesn't want the refugees. Lebanon doesn't want the refugees. Iran and Iraq don't want the refugees. America doesn't want the refugees. Europe doesn't want the refugees. Russia & China don't want the refugees.

When the fortnite-circle closes in Gaza and West Bank, where do you think these people will go? To a gigantic concentration camp? They'll fight -and die- first. Israel, and all of the surrounding nations are counting on this fact.

Palestine is done. Over. Finished. They have nowhere to go. They won't accept permanent incarceration. That leaves rebellion unto death.

That is the option the world has given these people. Do we help them? Move them? No. We condemn Israel's actions and blah-blah-blah.

Humanity makes me nauseous.

Can you point out to any action about the removal of West Bank arabs? There are an estimation of 2.5-3 million arabs there. There is actually a country for these people and this is Jordan. Since in '48 the arabs didn't accept the two state solution then, they are forced to live in a country which is not for them.

Also, could you please point out where are they refugees from? '48 is 77 years ago, how is the 2nd and 3rd generation are still refugees? There are no other people in the world who claim to be refugees in the 2nd and 3rd generation.

The use of the term "West Bank arabs" is already a racist dog whistle. They're called "Palestinians."

They come from Palestine. They're not going to willingly allow themselves to be deported to Jordan, as you want.

they called themselves Arabs before 1960. You’re probably aware of that since you keep commenting on this issue. Jordan is also Palestine which you should also be aware of before commenting on this issue.

And Israelis have only called themselves Israelis since 1948. But if someone were to go around calling them "Palestine Jews," you'd rightly suspect that person of antisemitism.

But Israelis aren’t an ethnicity, they’re Jewish and Arab and druze and Christian. if someone called Israelis Palestinian Jews, it would sound like they know very little about Israel, and think that most diverse society in the Middle East is an ethnostate - basically your standard online conspiracy theorist.

Whereas the people that call themselves Palestinians are trying to pretend Palestinian is an ethnicity and rebrand themselves from being Arab colonists.

> people that call themselves Palestinians are trying to pretend Palestinian is an ethnicity and rebrand themselves from being Arab colonists.

That reminds me, isn't there some traditional eschatology that co-opted the word "semite" to similarly rebrand their colonial habit?

The word antisemitism was used many years before Israel existed. And arabs colonised the levant, Israel is easily the most successful decolonisation project in history.

Do you actually believe this stuff, or do you just say it to troll?

The "Arab colonists" you're talking about are people whose ancestors have generally lived in the region for as long as they can remember. They were kicked out by people who had just arrived from Europe a few years earlier.

Well,I don't know about a population that have displaced and occupied/imprisoned for such a long time. I feel fine calling the refugees.

And don't try to claim Israel left Gaza in 2006

Area C is still under Israeli control, despite them promising to leave the are 30 years ago. And they keep on allowing new illegal settlements. Considering how much area was under the jurisdiction of settlements (well over 40% in 2010) the 22 new settlements in 2024 is potentially a huge land grab.

When there’s only 100,000 Palestinians left, Israel will announce that they accept a one-state solution.

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