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Have I not paid my price by going to jail? By being homeless and sleeping in my car in the cold of winter? By having people show up at my door in January trying to cause physical violence to me? Are you the same person you were 9 years ago? Would you rather my children not have food and shelter because of mistakes I made 9 years ago and paid for in abundance? Should I put up a gofundme so that they can have their needs met? I'd rather work to earn that money. But nobody will employ me. So this is all I can do. Do you have a better idea? If your best answer is "oh well, you committed an atrocity, therefore your children should suffer," then fine, that's on you. But I won't settle for that. I will do everything I can to provide for them.

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weird to parlay someone making publicly available information known to those who you are asking money from into an accusation of wanting harm to come to your kids. least of all given that you harmed a kid. "nobody will employ me", well, probably because they have the benefit of the knowledge being shared here.

> paid for in abundance

its my opinion, shared by many in our society, that you did not pay for it "in abundance". in fact, harming a child incurs a debt that can never be truly "paid for". your reward for time served was to no longer be in jail, not to have your history erased.

I'm aware that many people will not be happy even Hell really does exist and I go there for eternity. Many people have expressed this sentiment in the most gory terms. Those people will never be happy, and I think that's fair. I'll pray for them though that they can have a change of heart, so they can have a chance at happiness.

To be fair:

> Duration of Registration: Lifetime Registrant

Arguably the law says that you will never have paid your price.

With regards to the law, yes. I have to pay $100 every year and tell the government all my information.

Society is not the government. Society has the opportunity to let me back in.

Sure, and I'm not flagging your post or anything here. Society has the opportunity, but not the obligation.

What about this one

> A jury has convicted a Woodstock man for putting a child in a headlock, pulling him to the ground and striking him repeatedly, leaving him injured in Woodstock.

https://www.lakemchenryscanner.com/2023/05/25/jury-convicts-...

That is not a black and white situation, and I received only 10 days in jail because of the circumstances, despite the prosecutor asking for the full 365 days. The statues of Illinois do not permit any evidence prior to the day of the incidents to be presented. I could not provide the jury any evidence that my son was becoming a very real danger who I had to protect myself and my other children from for at least a month beforehand. I am not and have never been a violent person, so he didn't get that from me. I could not present to the jury that I had called 911 on him several times, that he threw sharp objects at me, that I did everything I could do disarm him with as least physical force. I did not know about crisis hotline and the police never told me about it or suggested it, they simply said I'd have to figure something out. All I could present to the jury was his own testimony, under oath, that he had in fact harmed me and caused me physical harm. I used as little force as necessary to restrain him from another episode of dangerous behavior. I'm not sure what I could or should have done differently. And anyone commenting this or that solution, I would just say, I agree violence is rarely the answer, but I'm not sure what you would have done differently either. He has since been arrested at least once for similar violent behavior, so I am vindicated at least somewhat, because he didn't learn that from me, and I tried everything I could to prevent and stop it for the month before my arrest, and I haven't seen him since the arrest 4 years ago. And I was never violent. He didn't learn it from me. In order to protect another person's reputation, I will not say where I think he learned it.

Does his whole school know that his dad is a registered sex offender? That might lead to some anger issues

He had a great time in school, was very popular and had lots of friends. I know what led to his violent behavior. It didn't come from imitating me. I filed with the courts to protect him from someone, and the judge agreed with me that it was alarming what he was experiencing from others. But I failed to use the courts to protect him before it was too late. I tried and I failed. That's all I can say.

I'll just comment here and say that I support your right to participate in society. I don't think this entire thread is especially relevant here.

I don't have a clear comprehensive theory on what justice is (and if I did, it would be too large to fit in this margin), but forever being haunted by a criminal record for the rest of your life is not it.

There are no details on that page. No one here is in any position to judge anything because you need the full details of the case. But it's pretty obvious this is not Jeffery Epstein or Marc Dutroux we're talking about here.

I find many comments here unpleasant, hysterical, and even cruel.

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