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I was curious what the percentage of false allegations are, as this is often quoted as a problem by men online¹. The conclusion of my research is that the rate of false reports is essentially the same as for any other crime (so somewhere in the single digits).

¹: I am a man myself and I understand that men feel threatened this may happen to them. But I personally know multiple women who experienced sexual violence and zero men who were accused of rape

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The statistics are hard to come by, but at a glance the rate of successful rape convictions is similar to the rate of proven false allegation. And both are in the single digits.

So how to neutrally approach this? If you ignore cases without a conviction it's close to 50/50. Seems implausibly high though.

And then how do you factor in everything that didn't go to court?

Running a Kiwi Farms clone isn't how you combat sexual violence or any other heinous crime.

Explain how you do it then. Propose an idea so much better that it makes kiwi farms clones obsolete.

Improve the justice system. That's the only answer.

There is nothing worse than adding more injustice to the world because of some other injustice. And being righteous about it.

25 of every 1000 rapes ends in a conviction(2.5%)[1]. What percent would you estimate that would have to increase to in order to count as a large enough improvement to the justice system to obsolete the need for whisper networks?

1. https://rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

There is no "need" for the destruction of justice and the rule of law. Citing crime statistics doesn't change this fact. You're literally bringing up the "tough on crime" rhetoric yet again, it's been used as justification for the kind of things you're promoting since the start of time, and not once has it brought about a better outcome.

So 2.5% of rapes resulting in a conviction is too high for you?

We both know that's not what I'm saying. Not even close. But you're going to repeat the same lie and ad hominem because you have nothing else to say.

So it's too low? How high do you estimate it needs to be to obsolete whisper networks?

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