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Identifying issues and fixing them is good.

I see numerous negative comments about "expected by vibe coding", but the apology suggests that they are working on making Replit a production-ready platform and listening to customers.

I'm sure no-code platforms have had similar scepticism before, but the point here is that these are not for developers. There are many people who don't know how to code, and they want something simple and fast to get started. These platforms (Replit, V0, Lovable, etc.) are offering that.

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I don't want to be too inflammatory but seeing comments like this are what's poisoning AI to me more than the crappy products themselves. Of course the apology would suggest that, it would be business malpractice not to. However the history of results with these things shows otherwise so why put stock in the apology letter and not what has happened.

Also, sure people want that, but that doesn't mean it's a valid thing to want without putting the work in and once again, the history of these things being used shows that they don't really offer that. They offer the *feeling* of that which is good enough to get people's money, end products be damned. You could say the same thing about herion, tbh: "There are many people who don't wanna feel the crappiness of life, and these dealers are offering it."

> However the history of results with these things shows otherwise

Do you remember Will Smith's first video generated by AI compared to what Sora, Veo3, and Kling are doing now?

Do you remember first generated text by GPT-3 compared to new models? 2 years ago, there was no AI coding due to models' limitations, and now we have substantially better products that Cursor and others cannot cope with the demand.

If you can't see the progress, that's a personal thing; it doesn't mean others are not finding benefit.

Where's the big in-production use of this stuff in business that is making money and selling a product people use?

Cursor, replit, Trae, ChatGPT, Claude … and many others

any of those pullin a profit?

No-code platforms don't have non-deterministic outputs that you have to beg to not wipe out your database

> There are many people who don't know how to code, and they want something simple and fast to get started. These platforms (Replit, V0, Lovable, etc.) are offering that.

Evidently not (see the link we are discussing).

They are offering vaporware to non techies.

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