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I’ve hated Java since the day I first met it. That hatred has only grown as I’ve had to secure and optimize the jvm. If Java died today I would toast its demise and piss on its grave.

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Java served it purpose and served it well.. remember it was replacing large mainframe systems and developers needed their fair share of confidence - Types, JIT compiler, JDBC, JMS, EJB (I hated it though - but had the "enterprise" word in it to sell!), transactions, especially distributed transactions which was uncommon in other languages. In many languages the logic was scattered across multiple libs and frameworks - providing inconsistencies.

Even now in fortune 100 I don't think they use anything other than Java to perform daily tasks. Yea they are now more open to use Python for ML related tasks and Node.js for compiling React and all but anything backend its Java

I'm hearing that you don't hate Java, you hate the JVM

To help folks understand your perspective, what would you replace it with?

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