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Here in hill country Texas, even Walmart sells MorningStar corn dogs. H-E-B carries most of the Impossible line including meatballs. I made some dirty rice with the IF ground "beef" and it was awesome. There's almost no oil in it, browning onions and peppers required adding some avocado oil (never use olive oil for high temperature cooking).

PS: I'm a lazy vegetarian who will eat a real burger every few months. When vegan parm and swiss cheese get as good as the real stuff, then I'd go vegan.

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> never use olive oil for high temperature cooking

This is a myth and needs to die. Olive oil is fine at high temperatures, even EVOO.

https://www.seriouseats.com/cooking-with-olive-oil-faq-safet...

350 degrees is not high temperature cooking. Stir fry for instance is 500+ degrees and even higher

All this in F of course

I do a lot of stir frying on high heat. Olive oil would create plastic-like compounds at these temperatures.

I use avocado oil but even that can struggle with stir fry.

Yeap. I don't like using too much heat because then you're just creating toxic compounds to breathe in and eat unnecessarily. It takes longer but oh well. I really see the difference on AQM VoC and PM2.5 ans PM10 for various cooking techniques and ingredients.

Part of their financial woes might come from them paying for shelf space at retailers and/or making sale guarantees. A grocery chain will gladly carry a poorly performing product if the manufacturer is paying them to do so.

> There's almost no oil in the ground beef, so adding some avocado oil while browning onions and peppers was required.

Their sausage works well for that, no added oil needed.

Recipe called for ground beef. It was the most appropriate texture product for the recipe.

> When vegan parm and swiss cheese get as good as the real stuff, then I'd go vegan.

Cheese I really doubt will get there any time soon. It's pretty doable to make milk-free cheese alternatives with eggs - at least in terms of taste - which is probably per gram a lot more sustainable than proper cheese, but there wouldn't be any market for it.

Can you say more? I've got milk allergies and I might want to try making this just for me.

You can make vegan cheeses with nut milk.

Here is a video for vegan blue cheese[1]. The basic idea is nut milk and the culture for the blue cheese.

[1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cxMAl_LiSUU&pp=ygUZR29ydW1ldCB...

Channel is “Gourmet Vegetarian Kitchen”

Sorry, I wanted to know about the egg cheese

Caveat: This is only in terms of taste, not necessarily texture. And cheese of course has a massive range of styles on its own. Below targets something like a proper parmesan cheese.

Make soy sauce marinated eggs ([1] Korean version, but there's Japanese as well). Boil them a bit more so the yolks get crumbly rather than runny. Crumble those yolks. The result tastes similar to grated/powdered parmesan or grana padano, and the texture isn't too far off. Which makes sense given the similarities between fermented soy sauce and cheese, in their glutamates and fatty acids (see e.g. isovaleric acid). It doesn't work as well with tofu, there might be a food chemist here who knows their stuff and can explain why, I assume it's something inherent to the animal proteins.

Proper Thai fish sauce (nam pla) also shares quite a bit of its taste profile with cheese. It's no coincidence that all of these are fermented foods.

[1] https://tiffycooks.com/korean-marinated-eggs-mayak-gyeran-ea...

I posted this to give you another option since you can’t have milk at all. If you watch that channel, there’s lots of high quality recipes. Thus my sharing it with you.

Egg cheese recipes tend to have milk in them any way, so you would likely not avoid needing a milk substitute.

I feel like people who want milk-free cheese may not particularly want egg-based products either.

Hence why I said there wouldn't be a market :)

> vegan parm

Have you tried nutritional yeast? I use it everywhere I’d put parm. The taste is a bit different but as much delicious.

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