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Do tests let you understand a codebase you have not written?

this desire to understand code will be soon be seen as rather anachronistic. What's important is that you understand your tests. Let the AI generate the code.

The spec and the test are your human contribution.

I understand your point of view but I think it's too "optimistic", i.e. it will not happen soon, at least not outside AI maximalists.

you're describing TDD and it never turned into the panacea that was promised. I'm excited to try claude code, i even have a decent little personal project lined up for it but someone somewhere will always need to understand the code because tests are never 100% exhaustive and major flaws come up.

Ah yes, can't wait to tell my auditor / regulator "I don't understand the code because Claude wrote it, but it's fine, because understand the code is for boomers." That will get a big laugh in a deposition.

That'll be anachronistic too obviously. Your tests will be audited.

If the tests are written with sufficient detail that you don't need to look at the code, the implementation of the code is such a small part of the overall work that you are gaining very little in terms of overall productivity.

I agree

I would say yes.

To have useful tests, you must write the APIs for the functions, and give examples of how to wire up the various constructs, and correct input/output pairs.

Implementations of those functions that pass the test now have significant constraints that mean you understand a lot about it.

That’s called Test Driven Development.

First you write the tests, then you write code until tests pass.

They can. Particularly if you use them to validate your assumptions about the code.

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