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To me it sounds like it's time for you to get to know Elixir's (Phoenix's) LiveView. It does this even better and you barely write any JS at all.

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That is on my list of things to learn. It is not high priority, though, because I don't think Phoenix LiveView is extremely boring technology at the moment. The user base is not large enough.

A lot of stuff is quite commoditized already, and I never found the size of a user base a convincing metric to judge by (not to mention the chicken-and-egg problem that you just demonstrated).

People are doing genuinely hugely impressive production-grade work there, and I am currently looking at a SigNoz dashboard while >200 users are frantically clicking on dozens of places in our UI (contains many reactive bits); our code is nowhere near optimal and we very rarely get >150ms response times, most are 20-50ms, and we're talking some quite tame machines (2 of them) with 8GB RAM and 2 CPU cores... and even then 90% - 99% of the time is spent waiting on the database.

The context of the discussion is how to create apps extremely fast. If I would optimize for something else, it would be a different story.

Oh well, if you find that way then many people -- myself included -- would be very interested in your blog post. Bootstrapping remains a tricky territory, not because it can't be done very quickly but because it leaves a lot of tech debt behind that has to be paid off, inevitably, at one point.

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