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> And the suggestion of "Jeg vil gerne handle i morgen" for "Jeg vil gerne go shopping i morgen", instead reads to me as "I would like to act tomorrow". A more idiomatic translation would be "Jeg vil gerne købe ind i morgen".

It's a little better, but I would never expect anyone to translate "shopping" to "købe ind". "købe ind" is about getting groceries for the week, shopping is about walking the strip and dreaming of buying random clothing. As a native speaker I'd be less surprised if the you just used the borrowed word "shopping" directly. Basically "Jeg vil gerne shoppe i morgen".

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In British english at least, 'going shopping' is a normal way to say 'getting groceries for the week'.

Yeah groceries is "shopping"

"walking the strip and dreaming of buying random clothing" is "window shopping"

In Swedish, shopping has been loaned to mean window shopping. Buying groceries is commonly called att handla.

I think "go/do shopping" is the same in French, Spanish, Italian and German, as opposed to faire les courses / ir de compras / fare la spesa / einkaufen.

In US english (at least as I speak/understand it) "shopping" is any act of browsing/looking at/selecting something for purchase. It can be groceries, clothes, a car, anything really and it can be online or in person at a store.

"I'm going shopping" with no other specifics would normally mean "for groceries" or other general household supplies, though.

If a European language gained a new everyday word in the last fifty years, there’s a solid chance that it’s a loan word from English. A little odd to learn a “foreign” language filled with that stuff.

> European

It's not restricted to European languages. 贝果 is bagel, just sounded out phonetically, and 三明治 is sandwich.

Idk if there's anything super odd about it.

Of course, English is the worst offender of loan words. As someone else said somewhere, "[English doesn't] just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary."

Gung ho, monsoon, filibuster, herbivore, vacation, etc etc etc. Thousands upon thousands of loanwords.

Fun fact, 99% of words ending in -tion are the exact same in French. Every English speaker has a head start of hundreds of word vocabulary in French.

Those words also exist in Spanish, there the ending is "cion", and in Portuguese with ending "cão"

And in Polish: -cja. Lots of languages have had a deep relationship with Latin, not just Romance languages.

With Scandinavian languages it went full circle, there are lots of everyday English words stemming from old Norse :)

yes, a lot indeed. Even some very rare adoptions that almost never happen in languages (like the pronoun they). My most favorite has to be window though from the Old Norse vindauga (vind = wind, auga = eye).

As a Swede, I can recognize the norse root of most English word for things that existed 1000 years ago.

Same in French. When my colleagues tell me about "le repository Git", I love to answer about "le repositoire git" - sounds mightily quaint but that French word is actually the one through which the Latin repositorium percolated to English.

You'll love Flanders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHxO0UdpoxM

On the other hand, English is a Germanic language and got influenced by French. A nice recent article talked about why English doesn't use accents (because... of French) [1].

Just to say it's not uncommon at all to have languages influence each other.

[1]: https://www.deadlanguagesociety.com/p/why-english-doesnt-use...

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