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M1 was the canary in the coal mine. Apple went from making cell phone CPUs to an Intel destroying generation of CPUs in 6 years.

Personally I use a MBP for dev, at work I am required to use a Intel PC. I loathe my work laptop for being slower and having sleep issues.

My 265H Intel laptop sounds like a jet engine at all times, runs slower than my M4 Max, and only cost $500 less than the MBP.

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Absolutely agree. Here we are in 2025 and intel really doesn’t have an answer for the M1 which came out in 2020. A 600$ M1 MacBook Air has better performance / battery than most 1500$ plus intel laptops that are brand new. It’s honestly kind of sad.

> only cost $500 less than the MBP.

That feels like a big difference? I think $500 is more than I've ever paid for a laptop.

Then you’re buying very low end laptops. For anyone who wants performance — be it for gaming or compiling or video production or 3D rendering or LLMs - $500 is a very low budget.

(Also, I must be old because I can remember a time when even the cheapest laptop cost about $2k.)

I dunno about that, at least for gaming. I routinely see older model, but still perfectly capable, gaming laptops for $550 or less, on deals websites like Slickdeals. And I know that's more than $500, but not by much.

You can find deals on PC laptops much, much easier than Macs.

In enterprise terms $500 per laptop for a small group of employees is not even worth having a conversation over.

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