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The way I am doing the math with my Max subscription and assuming DeepSeek API prices, it is still x5 times cheaper. So either DeepSeek is losing money (unlikely) or Anthropic is losing lots of money (more likely). Grok kinda confirms my suspicions. Assuming DeepSeek prices, I've probably spent north of $100 of Grok compute. I didn't pay Grok or Twitter a single cent. $100 is a lot of loss for a single user.

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Comparison should be with Claude API pricing. It doesn't matter what other models cost.

Claude API pricing has significant margin baked in. I think it's safe to assume that anthropic is getting 80% margin on their api and they are selling claude code for less than that.

I assumed I pay a premium for a Max account to not have to worry about api costs getting stuck in a forever loop.

You are not paying a premium for a max account. You are paying much less than what you would pay if you were using the api directly.

what?? sonnet/opus is way better than deepseek, how can you compare that to deepseek

also you probably talking about distilled deepseek model

I haven't tried deepseek but I've seen claude do crazy things if you are at the correct random.seed

what do you mean about correct random.seed?

It means “if you’re unlucky”.

To me, claude usually feels like a bumbling idiot. But in extremely rare cases it feels like a sentient super intelligence. I facetiously assumed that in those cases it ran on the correct RNG seed.

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