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Web2py is fantastic. I've been using it for two years, and it is a joy. "Batteries included" is an understatement. Documentation is good, if not quite as good as Django's, the mailing list is extremely helpful, backward compatibility is excellent, and it's easy to use just the parts you like and ignore the parts you don't.

Regarding the "unpythonic" debate: Watching two years of web2py mailing list, it appears that the "OMG, new builtins and globals would confuse everyone!" fear is unjustified - I don't recall a single confusion about it (there might have been one or two I misremember - but there definitely is no room for the FUD)

If you're looking for a Python web framework, I think it is well worth your time to download and play with it a little.

Cue the "web2py is non-pythonic" crowd. FWIW, I liked web2py when I first saw it, then I stopped liking it and moved on to Django, Flask, Rails, Sinatra.

There is nothing to be gained from bashing somebody's hard work which isn't harming you in any way, and is probably benefiting a lot of people. Don't like it? Don't use it. Want to know how it compares to Django/Rails? Do a google search. It has been done sufficient number of times. The reddit thread with Flask's and Django's creator is the most popular I believe.

When someone says "unpythonic", I always think that they ran out of sensible arguments and started to bitch about the program. When I say "program", I'm not particularly addressing web2py (I have never used it).

There are lots of people that agree with you: http://www.plope.com/Members/chrism/pythonic

I preferred what Ian Bicking wrote in response: http://blog.ianbicking.org/unzen-of-unpython.html

One thing I like about the Django community is that part of Djangocon specifically features critics who are invited to criticize Django or some aspect of it, for example:

"Why Django Sucks and how we can fix it" http://blip.tv/djangocon/why-django-sucks-and-how-we-can-fix...

Flasky Goodness (or Why Django Sucks?) http://reinout.vanrees.org/weblog/2012/06/06/flask-django-su...

That's much better and productive than circling the wagons and letting personal insults fly.

Do you have the link to the reddit post?

If it's the one I think it is:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Python/comments/ex54j/seeking_clarif...

You probably won't find it looking for web2py. That was originally a discussion about Pylons/Pyramid that went off into the woods after someone asked "Are web2py and Pylons/Pyramid syntactically and functionally similar?"

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