The Really Easy SEO Link Building Strategy For Startups
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In general, blog commenting is good to build relationships, which then can get you links that pass value. However, in the short term, they probably do not help. You should build relationships with influencers in your space - however, it's not necessarily true they will come from inputting these keywords in Google's Blog Search.
If you're paying attention at all (you're running a startup in the vertical, right?) you should know who has influence. Start there, add value, connect - the links and secondary sites who may also be interested will show themselves organically over time.
This strategy is simply a component of an overall outreach and SEO campaign for any product. It very much needs to be mixed in with a variety of other techniques for full success.
The reason I shared it was because once you spend the hour or so to set everything up, you can sit down each day with your cup of coffee and spend 15 minutes building some links while interacting with the community in a very easy way. Mix that in with more specific outreach and you have a good strategy for growing exposure to your product.
I agree that this can be helpful, but the way it is framed in this article is dangerous, because it can easily be misinterpreted.
http://serpfu.com/case-study-insurance/
Once again, let me clarify that I don't condone the type of link building here, but I don't think that you can argue that it doesn't work.
Sounds like blog comments aren't the way to go.
They also advertise this service as "Penguin safe." Maybe if you launch your site between algorithm updates. You can definitely rank with these kind of links, but you will get torched eventually. This is not a long or even medium term strategy for what most of consider a startup.
Organic is the key word here. Make links with people not websites.
What I do like about this strategy isn't even mentioned about the author. Blog commenting can be a great way to start a conversation and a relationship with a blogger. Once you've done that, then you can get some real links instead of the crappy links in the blog comments section.
In regards to the nofollow topic, I left a comment on the post explaining my thoughts about that: http://www.layeredthoughts.com/seo-link-building/the-really-...
30 minutes a day is a waste of time for blog links. Even if you get 10 a day from dofollow blogs, the ROI is very low. However, if you take the same strategy and get 1 blogger to blog about you every month, then there's a much better ROI (as long as it's a decent quality blog).
The bigger issue here is with Google's Penguin update. Building low quality links can now hurt you. Blog comments are a perfect example of low quality links. There are all kinds of automated software packages for spamming blog comments with links. If you do the same thing manually and in a high quality way, you're risking a chance that your link building footprint will look similar to a spammer's-- at least in Google's eyes.
As someone whose site is just climbing out of Panda (thankfully not Penguin), I would probably choose not to link to my site if I was going to start commenting on blogs at a large scale. I'd just focus on the relationships.
Honestly, if someone asked me how to get a lot of links to a site, I would not tell this method. If you want a lot of low quality links, you need to be automating heavily. This strategy isn't meant for low quality links.
Just because there's software out there to automate blog commenting doesn't make all blog comments bad. A good comment on a good popular post is gold.
I think that this method is probably safe, especially if you the target site has a decent number of higher quality links. Still, it does come with some risk.
It wasn't long ago that Matt Cutts told us that duplicate content was ok and that Google would find the canonical version on its own. Then Panda came along. It was a widely held perception that incoming links couldn't hurt you. Now we know that they can.
Google's algorithm is a moving target, and it only seems that they will get more aggressive on discounting or even penalizing links that aren't given editorially.
I think in limited instances it still could possibly be a helpful strategy (if only to just start engaging the community at large and increasing brand awareness)
Go ahead and try all of these methods described in that post and then see how well it works. Shortly thereafter you'll be contacting a good SEO firm to clean up the mess, remove bad links, and start creating content for you that earns you links.
Most people fail at SEO because they simply aren't persistent. This method breaks down the process to the point where it's the easiest it's going to get to stay consistent with your link building efforts.
Also, it's really easy to avoid bad links with this method: If a site doesn't look legit, just skip it.
Even if the keywords targeted are very difficult, this is a fine activity for idle moments or for a marketing specialist/writer to do.
Technically, Alertoid would be an RSS reader that goes beyond the Read/Unread tagging, with the Commented/Comment Approved stages you described. Furthermore, it can be used for inbound marketing: as you monitor the keywords that interest you, you see the blog posts that mention them and can use those as starting points or ideas for your own blog posts, because if bloggers love comments, they love answer posts or reposts even more, and it's another great way to start a conversation and get backlinks.
/shameless plug
Hope my pitch was clear enough, don't hesitate if you have any feedback. If you're interested by Alertoid, email's in my profile, would love to hear from you, even more if you're a marketing/PR professional.
Feedback on SERPIQ: I just signed up, on the confirmation page (http://serpiq.com/users/sign_up) I see "You have signed up successfully. However, your need to confirm your email address." but a signup form is still there, empty, as if nothing worked. That doesn't seem right!
I'd love to hear how you're tackling the problem of tracking the actual comments that were left without resorting to a browser plugin in order to pull the details from the actual form on submit. Or maybe I said too much :)
(Also: http://signup.alertoid.com/ on your HN profile doesn't work.)
If more people have trouble with launchrock, I'll bring that in house. So much for building on the shoulders of giants :)
The strategy was extremely effective however, it isn’t any more and doing SEO this way isn’t a strategy your startup should adopt.
Google Penguin and to some extent Panda, were brought in to stop this kind of SEO and some of the changes they made have been very effective in stopping the effectiveness of this type of Grey-Hat SEO.
Similarly, your startup is probably on a new domain & with the changes to Google Penguin/Panda to ensure you aren’t sandboxed the first 500-1000 links you acquire are extremely important. By doing Grey Hat SEO – blog commenting, directories, article sites you are putting yourself at risk of getting your site placed in the sandbox.
After that you’re probably going to get a manual review and that is something you don’t want & if you don’t think Google Penguin is effective, then don’t but Google are going to keep making Penguin smarter & more aggressive about punishing sites that have built non-authentically earned links.
Additionally if you’re an E-Commerce startup a completely different SEO approach is needed & blog commenting is definitely not the way to do it (as is the case for any startup).
Penguin and Panda were introduced to combat blatant spamming practices, both with link building and content based spamming. Manually commenting with thoughtful replies is just being a good community member, getting a link back to your root domain is a nice little token for your efforts, and I would love to see a single case study of someone employing the strategy outlined in my post (at the volume I suggest) getting slapped by Google.
My comment was mainly referring to the first 500-1000 links of a website & avoiding being sandboxed etc due to significant changes with Penguin & Panda.
If a startup wants to link back then they should only do it if they aren't putting the keyword they want to rank for as their "name" which receives the link. However, this is still a Grey Hat SEO technique & whilst the risk reduces after the first 500-1000 links, it is much greater in those first core set of links & can easily see a website sandboxed.
As for the 500-1000 links thing, I assume you got that number from one of Rand's posts (http://moz.com/rand/the-first-500-links/).
First, those numbers and guidelines are entirely anecdotal. Yes, there is a "honeymoon" phase with new domains, but that's entirely unpredictable and there's no hard limit of links before you're in the clear (or in the danger zone for that matter).
Second, if a comment is put into moderation, and then must be approved by the blog owner, how is that anything but authentically earned? The blogger can approve or disprove your comment at her discretion, you're not exploiting any systems or anything.
I simply can't ever agree with someone who says that leaving a blog comment with your url in the website field makes you a Gray Hat SEO. If that were the case, there would be tens of thousands of mommy bloggers yelling at Google for banning their sites.
It's natural engagement with the community, with backlinks as a nice little perk.
Regarding the second part, it's very easy to beat the approval system on many blogging softwares - Wordpress for instance is extremely easy to do.
And regardless if you agree with me or not, blog commenting is a Grey Hat SEO technique. I also said that the effects for doing a few links is minimal in terms of negatively affecting a sites SEO rankings which I agree with you on, I am just disagreeing with you over the fact that this should be a startup's SEO strategy
https://twitter.com/iamdchuk/status/240989741246455810
Regardless of our disagreement here, thanks for the discussion!
Edit: I'm not referring to the author's blog.