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same with immunocompromised folks, though all that only applies to raw honey; pasteurized honey is more common in grocery stores and totally safe

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I would not expect this to make a difference as pasteurization does not inactivate Clostridium endospores.

In Finland honey is rarely pasteurized. It is seen as a quality defect if honey is heated after extraction from the hive. Heating is thought to destroy some of the beneficial compounds in honey.

Similarly one should not put honey to too hot tea if one wants the benefits instead of just sugar.

Pasteurization would also destroy the delicate honey taste. It takes almost nothing to do that, and heating honey above about 40 C even for 30 seconds will kill any honeyness and all you have left is the sweet.

I'll bet only the imported Chinese honey is pasteurized on the supermarket shelf. Most of that goes to industrial use anyway.

Spores of Clostridium botulinum require temperatures way above boiling point to destroy. Pasteurization doesn't do anything to them.

It's pasteurised to stop you from making mead, not because it does anything to Clostridium spores.

Pasteurization doesn't in any way prevent honey from remaining fermentable.

OK. So?

So your claim is refuted

The pasteurisation is not done to destroy yeast?

I doubt it, but even if that were the case it would not support your earlier claim. When fermenting things you will generally intentionally introduce a very small quantity of a carefully controlled culture to the bulk media. Which is to say, you would almost certainly have your own yeast culture at home that you would inoculate the mead-to-be with. Maintaining a sourdough start is an example of this practice.

If you want to start your own culture from scratch there are established practices for culturing "wild" yeast from the environment.

It's absolutely why its done, because people would otherwise inadvertently initiate fermentation with it.

Not seeing this and instead going for 'hehe my little dude, pasteurisation doesn't destroy the sugar, you can still add yeast and ferment it' doesn't come across as particularly impressive from my perspective.

> pasteurisation doesn't destroy the sugar

I never said that? It's well known that heat alters honey.

Obviously the purpose of pasteurization is either preservation or food safety (but I repeat myself) as opposed to preventing people from making mead. I claim no particular knowledge of which specific microorganisms are primarily responsible for the spoilage that might otherwise occur, nor the precise consequences of such spoilage.

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