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Can Elon's America Party succeed where others have failed?

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10 pointsrbanffy15 comments

I'd rather someone rich who wants political change focus on getting ranked choice voting in battleground states. As someone who would like to vote for a third party but generally leans toward one of the two major parties I can't justify most likely throwing my vote away. I'd be happy to put a third party candidate as my first choice in ranked choice voting since I know it wouldn't be a wasted vote.

Why would self-centered rich people push for a system that would reduce the impact of their money on policy?

It will be a tremendous success if it syphons enough fringe lunatics away from either of the mainstream parties that one of them can enact a centrist agenda.

> if his goal is to help create a more moderate government?

Is it? I can't find any idea of what his platform would be anyhow. Put AI in charge of everything maybe?

Granted I guess with the GOP platform doesn't matter, states rights, less debt, any sense of libertarianism, being some magical 'leader of the free world' just about every GOP traditional platform item is out the window.

I think in any other case a new party with some nobody's might have a chance with an electorate looking for answers, but Elon is not nobody and carries baggage. Can you win elections consistently as "Elon's party"?

Since nothing about Musk is "moderate", I'm guess the Musk Party would be exceedingly unlikely to be moderate either.

I had hopes DOGE might actually sensibly increase government efficiency but Musk's thing seemed to be get teen/early twenties hackers with no government experience to fire people randomly. It doesn't bode well.

Put AI in charge. I been playing with a lot of ideas about putting AI as a mediator for a groups of people have you seen that anywhere?

Great idea. Let me train a model for that purpose.

I guarantee it will be fair and wise.

It has to be more fair and wise and logically consistent than a human. With no kids, food or desires there no reason for it to get desperate and screw people over

>It has to be

Why is that? LLMs aren't magically reasonable, nor are they even intelligent. They just do word math and output strings of text...

Yeah, but you don’t actually want intelligence — you want consistency. And LLMs are great at giving you the next word or phrase based on the probability that you truly believe a prompt and its context.

Which is exactly what you want. It’s like if you ask a group of five people what they want to eat, knowing they’re all vegans. If you wanted a fair decision-maker, you’d hope they pick something close — vegan and good. An AI will always give that answer in a boring and predictable way. But a human might take outside context into account or selfishly pick a non-vegan restaurant — not because it’s consistent, but due to any number of random outside factors.

An LLM might very well pick undesirable outcomes because all it's doing is remixing human knowledge which has led to plenty of undesirable outcomes.

LLM powered governance seems like a janky version of luxury communism.

But, people, I guaranteed fairness and wisdom. Just trust my model, OK? It's for your own good.

I give you my word.

Issue is "might" is better than the guaranteed corruption of socialist system at scale. You can adjust the AI, humans we know are to flawed to lead a altruistic movement or make constant selfless decisions

Debatable. E.g. "MechaHitler."

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