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Are we looking at the same thread? I see nobody claiming this. Anthropic does sometimes, their position is clearly wishful thinking, and it's not represented ITT.

Try looking at this from another perspective - many people simply do not see human intelligence (or life, for that matter) as magic. I see nothing religious about that, rather the opposite.

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I agree with you @orbital-decay that I also do not get the same vibe reading this thread.

Though, while human intelligence is (seemingly) not magic, it is very far from being understood. The idea that a LLM is comparable to human intelligence implies that we even understand human intelligence well enough to say that.

LLMs are also not understood. I mean we built and trained them. But don't of the abilities at still surprising to researchers. We have yet to map these machines.

I do partially agree. Though, it is at least tractable to understand why a LLM gave a specific output - but perhaps not practical. Understanding how a human arrives at a certain decision (by say simply looking at brain waves) OTOH is not even tractable as of yet.

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