I see strange discrepancy: my "old" i7-12700K vs i7-13700K:
Games: 170 vs 270 Software: 271 vs 1875 (!!!)
I can believe into 170 vs 270 (though, these two CPUs are not so different!) but 7x difference in software!? Is it believable?
The benchmark is creating a global order based on which one is faster, including indirect comparisons. But that only takes care of the position, not the rating. That one is based on the percentage between direct neighbor iff there is a direct comparison in the benchmark data, otherwise it's a small .1 increment. So many small percentage increases that don't necessarily match the direct comparion between parts that are not neighbors. Sometimes that works great, sometimes not.
Here the example looks a bit pathological, that difference is further off than I expected when introducing the calculation recently. For the 12700K and 13700K, the direct comparison sees the 12700K at 85% of the 13700k:
https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/games/cpu/compare?ids%...
For apps it's 79%:
https://www.pc-kombo.com/us/benchmark/apps/cpu/compare?ids[]...
So yeah, sorry, that part is misleading right now. I'll check the calculation.
But the ingested individual benchmark numbers and the ranking, so the position, is very solid I'd say. With the caveat that ranking position can change with more data.
I seem to remember you'd need dedicated industrial cooling for the 14700k. Does the new model at least pump much less power?
But it is a valid question.
There were power efficiency gains, as well as nice productivity improvements for some workloads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjPXOurg0nU
For gaming, those CPUs were a sidegrade at best. To be honest, it wouldn't have been a big issue, especially for folks upgrading from way older hardware, if only their pricing wasn't so out of line with the value that they provide (look at their GPUs, at least there the MSRP makes the hardware good value).
Those CPUs run hot, but it got exaggerated a lot online. It’s not hard to handle their heat with a good air cooler (even some of the $50 units like the Peerless Assassin) or a run of the mill closed loop water cooler.
There are a lot of old notions in the gaming community that you need to keep CPUs under arbitrary temperature thresholds or that any throttling is bad. Modern CPUs and GPUs run themselves deep into the performance curves and slight throttling is barely noticeable.
> If you have an Intel Raptor Lake system and you're in the northern hemisphere, chances are that your machine is crashing more often because of the summer heat. I know because I can literally see which EU countries have been affected by heat waves by looking at the locales of Firefox crash reports coming from Raptor Lake systems.
If you want people to listen, you need to have a link where you explain what hardware you're using, what settings you're using, what apps/games you're running, what metrics you're using and how you compute your Magical Number.
My already high level of sceptism is compounded by some scarcely-believable results, such as that according to your testing the i9-14900K and i9-13900K have essentially identical performance. Other, more reputable and established sources do not agree with you (to put it mildly).
It does get really complicated to address something like that when all comparisons are indirect. Thankfully, that's not the case here.
The 13900K and 14900K in games really have been that close, see https://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/intel-core-i... for an example, where the two have a 2% FPS difference.