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There is a no-AI audience because "AI" is now associated to jumping on the latest bandwagon for no discernible reason (and if there's a reason, it's usually for getting VC money). And price increases as a bonus.

There is a no-AI audience because vendors turn this crap on by default and I don't know where my data (which may not even belong to me but to a customer!) goes.

"AI" is the new Clippy. Except MS didn't charge extra for Clippy.

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It's also synonymous with bad art, bad writing, climate irresponsibility, and hallucination. The problem is, people want to do the least amount of work possible and go home at 5, so they're all too happy to use the tech that their employer is forcing down their throats.

It's synonymous for you - not the rest of the world.

If you think AI art/writing is bad, you should have seen what the people who produced it were producing before.

I don't think "AI" will either improve or worsen your average tv series.

The question is, will the samey bland series peddlers pass the cost savings on to whoever likes that kind of stuff?

I think AI will raise the floor, which is sort of good.

That will make things a LOT more unequal. When everyone is very mediocre, the few that stand out, stand our a lot more, and since everyone is used to the sameness, they'll reward difference a lot more.

There were bad hamburgers before McDonalds started to mass produce them, but now everyone is eating slop.

AI generative output seems to have similar output to when you flood a creative field with capital and demand returns off a flourishing subgenre. A lot of mediocrity from trying to simulate that magic with a great lack of inspiration.

Mostly they were producing nothing, which is certainly better than AI “art”.

You obviously didn't browse deviantart prior to 2022.

[textbroker moment]

Oh, and even more aptly, do you remember "spinning"? This was a manual job, if you can imagine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_spinning

Art is good or bad if it expresses what the artist wants it to express or not. It is not strictly a matter of quality / fidelity. It is terribly difficult to produce good art through the common chat interface used to create art with AI. Tools that allow iterative refinement like ComfyUI are far more capable for allowing people to create art with AI, but they are also far more capable at producing something that is low quality.

What’s interesting about this take, and I don’t disagree with the sentiment, is watching Apple get skewered by fumbling AI integration on the iPhone. That’s obviously of their own doing since they turned on their marketing machine on full blast and made promises. But some users seemed really disappointed in their lack of AI features compared to Android. I don’t think anyone would be disappointed for removal of Clippy.

Yes, yes they did charge. The price was an agonizing wrenching feeling, as yet another small piece of your soul disappeared, each time you saw it.

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