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Uh I know what KeePass is and how it works. The proposed "smooth" solution is - at best - clunky and inconvenient. You've missed the forest for the trees.

> You don't understand KeePass, which is fine

Haha this is so hilariously smug and condescending I have to wonder: are you the real-life Comic Book Guy?

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I should’ve clarified: I consider it relatively smooth for a technical user.

Yes this is being pushed on everyone, including grandma's and the tech illiterate. If the "best" solution is clunky at best, what chance to the tech luddites have?

the best solution for the technical user isn't the best solution for the non technical user. the streamlined solution for the non technical person is that they just have their phone and it has the passkey.

> the streamlined solution for the non technical person is that they just have their phone and it has the passkey

So no one uses desktop or laptop computers anymore? Who made that decision for everyone, I wasn't consulted.

If you want to talk about the laptop and desktop use case, we can talk about those, but non technical people don't have laptops or desktops anymore, they got thrown out sometime after the iPhone and ipad came out, circa 2010. (sorry you didn't get invited to the conference. It was nice, Sarah brought her granddaughter and we had chips and guacamole, it was all very nice)

I disagree, it's an extremely myopic understanding of the world likely perpetuated by a sheltered Silicon Valley cabal.

There are millions of non-technical people with jobs, where they are issued a company computer.

It's conceivable they might want to access the World Wide Web on it.

Assuming they own no other devices other than a mobile phone as you suggest, they still have at least two and probably don't want to sync anything from their personal phone to a company computer.

P.S. your comment was funnier before you added the part about the gucamole

so they go to the website on their work computer, and scan the QR code on their personal phone

Please don't make personal attacks on HN.

The only difference between an imagined smooth solution is the sync mechanism and a unified client application ecosystem, neither of which is really possible without a large company behind it.

I said you don't understand how KeePass works because you refer to 3 applications for 3 different OSes (2 mobile) as if they were a confusing mix of different applications, when really they're just client implementations around a single, formalized spec. And most folks don't use both iOS and Android so really there's just your choice of KeePass desktop app and one for Android or iOS.

No one says the plethora of email client choices is confusing. This is exactly the same.

This is peak HN. You behave like a douche then appeal to decorum and cry about the rules when called out about it.

> No one says the plethora of email client choices is confusing. This is exactly the same

It's absolutely not the same. No one is manually syncing files across PCs and devices so they can retrieve mail on all of them. You have zeroed in on some irrelevant pedantry and continue to ignore the big picture.

Yet you keep name-calling, so who is acting rudely?

3 different applications to access your secrets is what you focused on and now you're moving the goalposts. KeePass having 3 different client applications is what you chose to make a mountain out of, yet they're all just porcelain in front of an agreed upon standard.

Making a kbdx file accessible in Dropbox or any other cloud service does not take technical wizardry.

Kindly stop your personal attacks.

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