We in computer science departments are very happy to send our students to industry, whether or not they bother finishing their degree.

The article lists a bunch of old-timers, like Page and Brin. Right now, everyone is talking about the "$100M offers" from Meta, for people who completed (or dropped out) of their computer science PhDs.

What does "not standing for industry" mean to you?

Academia provides the benefits listed in the article. The relationship is pretty clear.

Already does. Many PIs use their lab and facilities to spin out patents and startups. In either case it is where industry finds the trained talent they rely on to make money.

It bugs me that this is down-voted so much. I love education, academia, research etc. but it is clear to me that so much elite education hates factory farming, mining, manufacturing etc. It's good for independent voices to critique problems in these areas. But at some point you need to stand up and say these things have problems but our modern world needs them.

I see it in my elite educated children. The more productive (and I mean literally in terms of producing something) they look down on it. The ideal job is academia, government, politics, or the arts. I know I am over-generalizing, but its like college teaches them you are Satan if you work for an oil company or Monsanto and a saint if you work for the EPA or FDA. Both are flawed but you also need both.

Applications to graduate school typically surge during times of economic downturns when industry is on its back foot. So...yes?

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2009/feb/17/rise-appli... (16 years ago) and more recently https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-04-12/grad-scho...

I'm in industry, academia is similarly standing up for industry all the time, in addition to feeding us all the basic science that we turn into products.

Academic labs are often very eager to partner with industry to bring things to market. At least from my view in cancer. Especially the NCI is very impactful in making sure that discovery makes it to patients as quickly as possible.

What does this mean?

The article points out that industry benefits from academic funding.

Are you implying that a) academia does not benefit from industry or b) if industry’s survival were threatened academia would not care?

Academia benefits hugely from industry and would/does stand to protect those benefits.

Does industry hire people straight from the womb?

> Would academia likewise stand for industry?

Yes, but academia doesn't have the money to be of help for the industry.

many downvotes for asking a question without any implications. I wonder what it means