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RFK Jr's new vaccine panel votes against preservative in flu shots in shock move

theguardian.com

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The article buries at the end that it’s present in only 5% of all the vaccines including the multi-dose flu vaccines (aka a bulk bottle that would be used to dose a large number of people, more cost effective than smaller doses that don’t need as many preservatives) and that the biggest concern is that they’re disputing “settled science” (on a preservative that was removed from the majority of child and adult vaccines for what the article attempts to portray as unnecessary safety/precaution back in the early 2000s) that other countries rely on, and that if the global perception of the ethylmercury preservative shifts toward negative, it will mean more countries will use vaccines with less preservatives which could make them more expensive or harder to get.

There's neurological damage somewhere — just not where the panel expects to find it.

Taenia solium lives matter.

The larger problem is it's dangerous and unscientific to switch or remove preservatives without studies collecting evidence for safety. It's entirely possible uncountable hundreds to thousands of people will be injured from infections due to a lack of preservatives. Of course, knowing how these people operate, they will cover up the evidence so we will never know without a whistleblower.

Why does anyone even care about thi…

> the preservative has been a talking point of anti-vaccine advocates for decades

Ahh, that makes sense. Is the best way to get policy made over the next four years gonna be to seed it to fringe conspiracy groups?

cede

Seed, to plant

Not cede, to surrender

Giving control of policy to fringe groups is ceding control to them.

Seeding an idea, to plant an idea does not jive here.

> Seeding an idea, to plant an idea does not jive here.

It does. If you want to see any reasonable policy passed instead of craziness, you need to convince some conspiracy groups to believe it, then it will be taken up by the administration and passed.

Plant the idea, they grow it and it gets passes. It's pretty clear that's what OP meant. 'Ceed', in this context makes no sense. In the discussed example policy is already coming from fringe groups, there is nothing to ceed to them. But to plant ideas with them that you want passed is how you'll get policy.

Note, not saying I agree or disagree with the original statement, just clarify what they meant by it.

That makes zero sense in this comment/context. Are you spreading misinformation as the panel did, in an artistic act of mimicry?

If so, I applaud. I am moved, my soul touched.

The idea discussed has been believed for decades by the cited fringe groups. The idea wasn't an example of anything being planted, but instead lunatic insane nutjob fringe group anti-vaxxers are now makig policy.

Policy in this area has been lost to the loons, the nutjobs, ceded to them.

And since policy decisions have been ceded to them, in order to get some reasonable policy passed we must seed the loons with a reasonable idea that they can believe and run with until rfk or whomever hears about that seeded idea and enacts it.

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