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I don't think the difference in opinion will shock me -- I am both.

California's collapse was not inevitable. It was completely avoidable by being competitive with other states where people fled to.

On the other hand, a Socialism mindset will be the inevitable collapse on NY if given enough rope.

Again, you cannot tax your way out of fiscal issues and not expect people to take advantage of other options available.

California became the 4th largest GDP in the world, among countries, in April. It has not "collapsed".

Also, $1000 on you not living in either California or New York.

California's budget says otherwise. Same with the CA's census data about people fleeing -- the reduced congressional seats don't lie.

And you'd lose that bet.

Luckily for us, we now get to see who is right! :)