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It's made it so that relatively poor people can afford to regularly fly all over the world, which is a relatively new thing.

Lowe middle income people in lower middle income countries can afford to fly somewhat regularly, and even internationally, too.

Flying used to be just for the rich only as far back as the 60s, and for nobody as far back as 200 years...

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Yes, it’s a way to extract something from all buckets. Higher income people you can get more money but with low incoming ones you get a lot more quantity since there are way more lower income people. Laws and regulations prevent people standing up or overloading planes with passengers so this is the alternative.

> It's made it so that relatively poor people can afford to regularly fly all over the world, which is a relatively new thing.

has _it_? do what is _it_ again?

>> All told, is all this chicanery benefiting airlines?

i'm really curious how screwing passengers has done these things.

Airlines are actually very low margin business. Thus, all these pricing tactics merely offset the drastically cheaper tickets. It makes sense, their margins are so low that they have to nickel and dime everything to make a small profit in good years and avoid going under next recession.

If you fit more people onto a flight, you can make more money, while the journey is less comfortable for the passengers.

and if all those people paid the same amount then there would be the same end result, but the situation would have nothing to do with the conversation, so i'm afraid that explains nothing.

Business and 1st class subsidizes basically all of Economy class.

I'd rather go back to only being able to fly once every few years as opposed to the bacchanal that is Ryanair...

you can do that by choosing a different airline

Ryanair has been very successful with their PR. They've made sure that people who don't fit their customer profile will have an irrational hate for the airline without ever having flew them. And that people who are looking for the biggest bargains flock to them. And the price difference is just ridiculous.

And I don't even understand what everyone's problem with Ryanair is, except maybe the company's treatment of its own personnel. Flights have been just as smooth as with some more expensive carriers. I haven't gone to any party destinations though, if that's what the bacchanal reference is about.

I also have greatly enjoyed their flights for the most part. The reference was in relation to the drunken fights that seem to be a "common" occurance.

Spirit Air in the US has somewhat of a similar rep.

Then save your pennies and fly in first class. The choice is all yours.

The vast majority of the world’s population can’t afford to fly. The relatively poor part of your comment is weird. Flying is still for the rich.

Flying used to be for the ultra rich, people’d gather around them to listen to their plane ride story. The poor in this case are not the poorest but poor comparatively

Okay, sure, if lower middle income people in China are rich.

Even middle income people in India can afford flights...

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