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I wonder if the US tech execs are going to start regretting cosying up to the trump admin. The US is soon to isolate itself, and take them along with it which is essentially soon to be their own fault.

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Without intel/amd/nvidia/ampere/qualcom what servers can one deploy? What client devices can the EU buy? Without sovereign supply chains, I personally will take US hegemons above chinese hegemons any day.

In the short term, Trump could order the immediate shutdown of cloud accounts for the EU, as exemplified in the article. While this won’t completely eliminate the EU’s reliance on American tech, as you rightly pointed out, it does reduce the risk of a sudden disconnect and initiates a long-term commitment to gradually distance itself from US tech. It’s a step in the right direction.

US cannot even stop a single country from getting access to latest GPU.

“Lord, protect me from my friends; I can take care of my enemies.”

― Voltaire

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> Without intel/amd/nvidia/ampere/qualcom what servers can one deploy?

Without memory or storage chips from Asian manufacturers what servers can one deploy? I think Micron is the last (?) major US-headquartered maker of these types of chips.

> What client devices can the EU buy?

Who makes the screens for client devices (phones, tablets, laptops, etc)? How many are American companies?

Nationalizing ASML could be option to combat this. No more semi-conductor making machines for you...

With the semi-conductor world so interdependent, such scenarios look a lot like Mutually Assured Destruction scenarios. So... back to 180nm everyone? I hope you planned a way to black start into it!

Worked out great for Iran

SiPearl, MediaTek, etc.

> Without intel/amd/nvidia/ampere/qualcom what servers can one deploy?

ARM? Something that is increasingly commonplace as a machine type in AWS and GCP

ARM is the architecture, have fun deploying on mediatek SoCs.

Sure but I'm saying ARM because the implication in OP is that Qualcomm is the only game in town for server compute on ARM, but it isn't. Even NXP (which happens to be Dutch) has some server-viable boards for ARM

Are there non-US/China vendors who will sell you a hyperscalar ARM CPU they have designed?

Arm? But also, thy ere is a big difference in that if Microsoft was somehow forced to hand over data, then they could, even if that data was in the EU. If Europe couldn’t buy US chips things would’t immediately fail, though it would still be a huge problem.

All of this to me says the world needs far more diverse supply chains either a healthy level of alternatives at every stage.

This stuff has nothing to do with Trump; it's been going on for multiple administrations.

Yes, it's been going on for three administrations now.

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