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Show me another browser that still runs uBlock Origin.

Other browsers may be less resource intensive but with unreadable internet.

I was using a Chromium-based browser for a bit until I looked into how forks are handling the Mv3 changeover. Seems none them are willing to maintain Mv2 support. A couple of them claim it's fine because they have ad blocking built into the browser, but I know from experience none of them work as well as uBO. So, I switched back to Firefox where I'm plenty happy.

you are like me

Mozilla should rebrand Mv2 to SuperM or something like that. People that believe Mv3 is as powerful are simply wrong. Also malicious browser plugins weren't a sensible threat for years now.

Of course this is about making browsers less customizable, Googles wet dream of web integrity. Integrity with ads, ads, ads...

The security argument is so perverted in this instance, although that also didn't stop mobile OS from being majorly shitty until you install an ssh client.

Not just unreadable - actively malicious. Every now and then I run into a website with a bunch of custom javascript that doesn't function in Firefox, and I'll have to open up Edge or Chromium (depending on what computer I'm using). Every time this happens, I'm immediately accosted with "features" or advertisements attempting to hijack my experience to sell me something or steal from me.

As long as Firefox supports the tools that protect me from the hostile behavior of websites, it will remain my browser of choice.

Personally, Tree-style tabs (via Sideberry nowadays) is why I can't let go of Firefox. Seems some browsers have started adding vertical tabs, which is cool, but missing the holy tree structure still.

A browser that blocks ads, has tree-style tabs and is FOSS would be enough for me to switch, doesn't even have to have addons/extensions if those things are built-in.

How resource intensive is this Sideberry? I'm still on Tree Style Tab, it looks kinda resource hungry to me, but I see Sideberry has even more functionality so I'm reluctant.

Any thoughts?

Used to use Tree Style Tab too! But I think Sideberry is better in terms of feeling snappier, at least that's what I remember from moving from TST to Sideberry.

Right now, I have ~110 tabs open, and the "Extensions" item in about:processes shows ~400MB used, but that's all extensions, ~10 in total, not just Sideberry. But to be honest, I'm not sure I'd notice performance issues until too late, as I'm sitting on quite a bit of RAM already.

I want to love sidebery but how do you stop seeing multiple tab strips, one down the side and one at the top. It's such a repeat/waste of space. Otherwise it has amazing features

> how do you stop seeing multiple tab strips

Easy, change the userChrome.css to this:

    $ cat ~/.mozilla/firefox/$profile.default/chrome/userChrome.css

    #main-window[tabsintitlebar="true"]:not([extradragspace="true"]) #TabsToolbar > .toolbar-items {
      opacity: 0;
      pointer-events: none;
    }
    #main-window:not([tabsintitlebar="true"]) #TabsToolbar {
        visibility: collapse !important;
    }

Replace "$profile.default" in the path with your actual profile.

Thanks!

Brave not only allows manifest v2 extensions but includes a comparable ad blocker OOTB.

Yeah but for how long? There will come a time where maintaining Mv2 compatibility will become too onerous for them – and google will try to make that moment happen sooner than later.

Vivaldi is what I use. uBlock works fine with it. I have no issues with content loading or anything weird. I just describe it as "chrome, but if someone actually cared about the UI and functionality", and the mouse gestures are super nice.

I went to it from Firefox ages ago and haven't looked back or missed Firefox and all its issues even once.

I can't say your experience with it will be as good as mine or not, but it is a browser with adblock, which is also built in, but I prefer the plugin version.

I’ve never used it and will take your word on its usability. But it’s not FOSS and so I’d never adopt it. Web browsers are too critical a piece of the stack today for them to be proprietary.

Same for ad blocking extensions and block lists tbh.

Brave re-implemented everything uBlock Origin does, and did it in Rust.

But its Brave, crypto aligned projects are a nonstarter.

Don't use the crypto portion??

I don't know what else to tell you, you're not even paying for the browser, it's a free service. Any browser that implements an ad blocker is probably also going to have a lot of features you don't use

Just to vouch for this, I've been using Brave for many years. Haven't done a single crypto transaction in my life. Whatever crypto features it may have don't get in the way at all.

They get in the way of trust.

Same for the "in Rust" recommendation which is in about the same fanaticism ballpark as "AI".

You have to go out of your way to use any of the crypto features. None of them are forced on you any more than the built in TOR/IPFS/BitTorrent clients. It's just there if you want it.

"crypto-aligned" is such a gigantic red herring.

so use the --disable-features flag at runtime?

maybe go into brave://flags and disable the wallet?

or just admit you're only against Brave because Brendan Eich privately donated $2,000 to a failed CA Proposition?

Setup AdGuard DNS on your end. Works perfect on any OS.

Security onion please

Do DNS based solutions provide a "normal" browsing experience or you get fancy error blocks wherever the ads were supposed to go?

uBlock Origin can modify the page.

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