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Does this DNS server block (censor) the domains of the CUII list as many German internet providers do?

> https://cuiiliste.de/domains

> https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearingstelle_Urheberrecht_im...

(both are German websites, but they should be easily understandable for everybody)

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I love that list. It’s like a convenient lookup directory when you need to pirate or stream something, freely accessible, sponsored for by the government and the entertainment industry!

> sponsored for by the government and the entertainment industry

This list rather did rather become known because of a leak. Here is a German article about this topic: https://netzpolitik.org/2024/cuii-liste-diese-websites-sperr...

lmao, I was just going to say. This is going to do the opposite of what it intends for me.

NO censorship as far as I can tell, all websites I tried worked. Beyond that, Russian websites are also fine.

Also, I don't expect to have EU wide bans anytime soon because each country is into doing its thing in this regard. When Germany, Italy etc. are going trigger happy for piracy Eastern EU and the Nordics used to be or maybe continue to be the providers of that.

Doesn't look like it, picking a random domain from this list gives the same result as from 1.1.1.1:

  dig bs.to @1.1.1.1
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  bs.to.   164 IN A 190.115.31.20


  dig bs.to @193.110.81.0
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  bs.to.   300 IN A 190.115.31.20

Test in particular the very newest, and the still used domains from the Wikipedia list such as

* nox.to

* getrockmusic.net

* libgen.gs

* sci-hub.st

Also resolves correctly - they do not seem to be doing censoring right now.

Thanks for doing the tests.

Another interesting test case are the following domains (Russian propaganda websites) that many German (European?) internet providers are prone to block:

  rt.com
  de.rt.com
  www.rt.com
  ria.ru
  radiosputnik.ria.ru
  radiosputnik.com

For example in Germany, Vodafone blocks the first three ones. The reason for this blocking is not the CUII list, but ANNEX XV of

"COUNCIL REGULATION (EU) 2022/350

of 1 March 2022

amending Regulation (EU) No 833/2014 concerning restrictive measures in view of Russia's actions destabilising the situation in Ukraine":

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CEL...

Their network map promiscuously shows ZERO servers in Germany. They have in every other major EU country. I guess they have it this way to not follow this.

It shows two datacenter locations in Germany, Digital Realty and Interxion, both in Frankfurt.

They are also operating in Denmark, which have laws similar to those of Germany. One way they could get around the issue is perhaps by not actually being an ISP. I'm not a 100% sure, but I believe that at least in Denmark it's the job of the ISPs to block you from accessing certain sites. DNS blocking has been deemed sufficient. The providers of public DNS servers aren't ISPs so it's not their job to block the traffic. I also don't belive that e.g. Googles 8.8.8.8 is censured in the EU.

> I also don't belive that e.g. Googles 8.8.8.8 is censured in the EU.

They were recently forced by Italy’s AGCOM to censor domains used for piracy, specifically they had to sign up to the PiracyShield thing that was also discussed here some time ago.

Promiscuously? Do you mean conspicuously?

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