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But the things mentioned in the post above yours have nothing to do with telemetry. They're more like core functions to make the system work at all.

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take a look at fbs.smoot.apple.com and argue that isnt telemetry?

why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work? osx doesnt of course

> why does an os need to hit the internet AT ALL to work?

Does it actually need to hit these to work?

no, as i indicated above, and is patently clear to anyone who has turned off wifi

> Which then becomes a question of how much time/money to they invest in features for 1% of users? Now how much time do they invest in those same features when the 99% will stumble in there, turn a bunch of stuff off, then call support and ask why their weather widget isn't updating?

That sounds like telemetry?

The features I was referring to would be a control panel to list all the various remote calls to let uses micromanage what calls they wanted and which ones they didn’t.

Inside of those settings could be options to enable/disable telemetry, sure. But also push notifications, weather updates, virus definition updates, etc.

That's how it should be if all was fair, I feel like what we have here is a "dark pattern" whereby keeping all the telemetries opaque ... enables one to keep around the nasty sort of telemetry the company very much wishes to remain opaque.

The article, then again, specifically talks also about telemetry. The parent commenter conveniently chose to ignore them because of the Apple reality distortion field.