Support that.
Now support it while including direct costs and externalities.
I guess that's what you meant?
The hundreds of billions being sunk into AI.
> You can't force me to want (or not want) someone's goods and services.
What are you talking about? What does that have to do with anything in this conversation?
> If you're worried about large scale automation and so forth
I'm not.
> I'm fine with something like UBI.
Well as long as you're fine with UBI I guess we can put this conversation to rest.
Seriously, if you don't want to actually participate in the conversation you can just ignore comments. It's fine.
But, ok. Let's leave it at that. Peace.
1) Lesser cost: people start to not want each other for anything, and therefore lose income of any kind, and are gradually bred out of existence like with horses and oxen in the 20th century
2) Greater cost: bot swarms separate people and can bring about any sort of effect at scale, with people powerless to stop it — eg destroy reputations, bring about support for wars, take over control, or really anything
As for misuse, you are again catastrophizing. Just because a thing can be misused doesn't mean it will. That's obviously not the goal of AI.
Horses and oxen aren’t extinct. Just nowhere near their peak where they had been before cars and tractors.
They just won’t have as many children. It is already happening.
People need each other less and less thanks to technology. And they won’t be paying each other for anything when they have AI. Soon romantic relationships will be disrupted also, it’s called a “superstimulus” (eg when birds prefer fake rounder eggs to their own). Dating robots. Extrapolate a few decades out and what do you see?
As I’ve been saying for a decade, we are building a zoo for ourselves.
But I feel this disagreement isn't precisely about the technical details. If your stance is based on some fundamental idea of politics/philosophy, I can't change your mind.
The infinite number of monkeys with typewriters are generating something that sounds enough like Shakespeare that it’s making it harder to find the real thing.
I honestly have little to no problem with finding and filtering the stuff I want to see. All the writers and creators I liked five or ten years ago? Basically all of them are still there and not hard to find. My process of finding new people has not changed.
We've got a tragedy of the commons whereupon we've grown complacent that search engines and wisdom of crowds (of nameless strangers) would see us through, but that was never a good strategy to begin with.
AI slop does little but highlight this fact and give us plenty of reason to vet our sources more carefully.
I wonder if this is itself a form of AI generation LOL
The listicle-rot was already painful when the listicles were human-written and poorly researched. Automating the process has not improved the situation.
This phrase is kind of interesting to me because it implies that everything AI-generated is "slop". What happens when the AI is generating decent content?
Like, what if we develop AI to the point where the most insightful, funny, or downright useful content is AI-generated? Will we still be calling it, "AI-generated slop"?
In the end the intelligence revolution will be a net benefit to society. In the short term there will be untold suffering.
Only problem is that some huge percentage of white collar work is bullshit. It's no secret. We all know it and accept it.
How many of us have spent weeks or months (or years!) of our lives generating documents that end up going into a black hole (e.g. Sharepoint), never to be read by anyone ever? How many of us have generated presentations that only exist to explain to management what they're supposed to already know? How many of us put together spreadsheets, dashboards, or similar in order to visualize data that doesn't need to be visualized?
We spend our days reading and writing emails that ultimately end up being inconsequential. We waste endless amounts of our time in meetings. Days and weeks and months go by where we "did stuff" that ultimately didn't end up being practical for any purpose.
The people that actually get things done are paid the least and looked down upon. Yet they're the ones that are most likely to survive with their jobs after this "AI revolution."
My beef is with AI slop, not AI content. Bring on genuinely good AI content, and send me to live on a farm in the country.