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California has 25% of the 11 million unauthorized immigrants in the US. Last year, while Biden attempted to promote an immigration bill that did not pass, California made Medicaid available to unauthorized immigrants. 22% of California residents are on Medicaid, requiring $85 billion per year in matching federal assistance. Now the state has a $12 billion deficit projection for 2026. Los Angeles city recently issued bonds to fund a $1 billion budget gap for the current year. It didn't take long to speed run all that success into the ground with a few criminals that hijack protests and destroyed over $1 million in taxpayer funds in destroyed city vehicles. Half the people cheering this on will probably be unemployed in a few months.

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The problem is that people think that because they have a degree they will not be affect by the illegal imigration crisis.

They think this is a problem only for blue collar workers, that they cannot empathize with.

11 million is less than 5% of the population. What immigration crises? Less than 5% is a working system.

We've been hearing "11 million" for decades. No one really knows what the number is because no one in charge of finding out has wanted to know, but it's far higher.

No it’s not. We know, we can calculate just like we can calculate the population from the census even though not everyone fills it out. You are a disgusting person spreading fear, uncertainty, and doubt. You’ve got zero proof of that and are trying to revert my comment to spread your fear campaign.

How do you know it's higher without a count?

1. We can't just start making things up and working backwards. Okay, you think immigration is bad, now prove it. Y'all are absolutely incapable of that so instead you're just gonna claim fake news, fake numbers, yadda yadda yadda. Come on, it's pathetic.

2. Even if it WAS 1 billion people or whatever - why is that bad? The magic question you can never answer.

Is it bad because "white genocide"? Is it bad because jobs? Is it bad because those people are criminals? What's the threat here?

Because, from where I'm standing, these people don't hurt anything. In fact, they're very productive members of society! They work hard, harder than fucking lazy fat white Americans, I'll tell you that. They're modest. They're kind. They don't commit crimes because they're scared shitless of being deported. So what's the problem?

"Half the people cheering this on will probably be unemployed in a few months." Why? California has a huge economy, a 1B deficit isn't that big of a problem. For context, they contribute 700B in federal taxes.

You were talking about billions of dollars but now 1 million is a relevant amount of taxpayer money destroyed? Am I missing something? A million is money, no doubt, but not relevant on a wider scale to any degree.

What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

The person I was responding to framed the destruction of a million dollars of property as constituting a reversal of a financial success on the order of a billion dollars, which is why I asked for clarification. That seems silly.

>What amount should we allow to be destroyed before we take steps to protect taxpayer property?

What steps, what assets are being destroyed, why are they being destroyed? These are all relevant questions in answering that. If a small minority of protesters destroy one cop car, I wouldn’t say the response should be to arrest anyone protesting anywhere in the city, if that’s more your question.

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