Weird link you got there.
Weird link you got there.
Take a look at the vaccine studies - only J&J actually tested the effect on transmission, and J&J was hardly used.
The Pfizer and Moderna vaccines never tested transmission. So why would Fauci make such a claim?
Pfizer trial protocols: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2034577/suppl_f...
Moderna trial protocols: https://www.nejm.org/doi/suppl/10.1056/NEJMoa2035389/suppl_f...
But what did Fauci say on national news?
“So even though there are breakthrough infections with vaccinated people, almost always the people are asymptomatic and the level of virus is so low it makes it extremely unlikely — not impossible but very, very low likelihood — that they’re going to transmit it,” Fauci said.
Appearing on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” - June 16, 2021
While the vaccines do not eliminate all transmission, they can help. Studies done after distribution of the COVID-19 vaccines began, including research by Pfizer, did find that the company’s shot reduced asymptomatic infections in addition to symptomatic cases with earlier variants of the virus. Researchers in the United Kingdom reported in a February observational study that Pfizer’s vaccine helped cut transmission of the alpha and delta variants.
https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-pfizer-transmission-eu...
I don't remember the Manhattan project making any public statements that had an impact on public health?
What kind of a comparison is that?
Yeah, that's my point.
How is your example at all relevant?
You: Fauci's statement is true.
Me: How does that square with the fact that approximately everyone got covid? Do you think all of the infections came from unvaccinated people?
You: The vaccine was never advertised to prevent infection 100%, especially after time.
Do you see the logical disconnect here? How what you wrote was not responsive to the question?
A: If vaccinated then p(transmission) = low.
B: p(transmission) != low, given that many vaccinated people had to have transmitted.
How can A and B both be true? Or are you saying that B is not true, and everyone got sick via immaculate infection?
I was told by family and friends that the shots were 100% safe and effective, and that if I didn't take the shot I wanted grandma to die, because that's what the TV told them; and when I tried to show them quotes from the actual scientists creating the shots that contradicted that, they said it was misinformation.
Sorry - calling absolute bullshit on this one.