Hacker News Reader

Comment by lll-o-lll | Hacker News Reader

Or you change it and respond with “You were warned”.

I seriously do not get this take. People use reflection and all kinds of hacks to get at internals, this should not stop you from changing said internals.

There will always be users who do the wrong thing.

View on HN

Let's say I'm in a large company. Someone on some other team decided to rely on my implementation internals for a key revenue driver, and snuck it through code review.

I can't break their app without them complaining to my boss's boss's boss who will take their side because their app creates money for the company.

Having actual private fields doesn't 100% prevent this scenario, but it makes it less likely to sneak through code review before it becomes business-critical.

You can still create modules in zig, just use the standard handle pattern as you might in c/c++. I think that many of us have worked in “large company”, and the issue you describe is not resolved with the “private” keyword. You need to make your “component/module” with a well defined boundary (normally dll/library), a “public interface” and the internals not visible as symbols.

That doesn’t save you in languages that support reflection, but it will with zig. Inside a module, all private does is declare intent.

In languages with code inheritance, I think inheritance across module boundaries is now widely viewed as the anti-pattern that it is.

Reply on news.ycombinator.com