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Can you clarify what Trump's 2016 had to do with race

This is the part where you feign not hearing dogwhistles. How about this, are you aware of any openly racist organizations that support him?

The resentment of a chunk of white Americans who for some reason did not like having a black president.

You can't claim that while claiming wanting to elect a black president wasn't a big driver in much of the turnout for Obama. There were multiple musicians literally making songs about finally being able to elect a black president.

Obama was genuinely qualified to be president. Trump was clearly unfit in 2016 (having never held elected office and run nearly all his businesses into the ground), and constitutionally disqualified after Jan 6 2021.

Trump was also reluctant to denounce or criticize white nationalists. He repeated and reposted neo-Nazi content and phrases. He is the one ordering a zealous yet haphazard dismantling of anything that breathes the words racial equity, and without a hint of pushback from his voters.

That's your opinion though. Obviously lots of people disagree.

Trump's initial popularity was due in no small part to the anger of American white supremacists and the alt-right, this was well documented even back in 2016[0,3]. That the President elected after Obama was the man who mainstreamed the birther conspiracies against Obama was not a coincidence. It wasn't entirely about Obama, but he was the straw that broke white America's back.

[0]https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/05/donald-...

[1]https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/10/donald-trump...

[2]https://archive.is/tZpFB

This wasn't because of racism. This belief is why the left keeps losing to him... a total misunderstanding of what brought him into power.

Some of the earliest figureheads of the so-called "alt right" movement were homosexuals and racial minorities

Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age. His win was a revolt against emergent phenomenon like "cancel culture".

> Trump's win was a revolt against the social justice age.

So, it wasn't bigotry it was just a reaction against the rejection of bigotry?

The social justice age wasn't a rejection of bigotry. It was a Mccarthy-esque movement of dividing everybody between sexual and racial lines into a hierarchy of who was and wasn't allowed to speak. Speaking against the party line meant exile.

The SJW/Wokeism movement had nothing to do with true equity and "rejection of bigotry". That's why there was such a revolt against it.

> Speaking against the party line meant exile.

But that has got worse, not better.

Trump is threatening to cancel contracts with Musk and to Munich him if he funds opposition.

That’s the bluntest example of ‘cancel culture’ you’ll find.

Also: Musk and Trump deserve each other.

Of course, I didn't claim that the republicans aren't now doing everything they claimed to revolt against but worse. As it turns out "free speech" absolutism only applies to things that pwn the libz.

I call b*t. The reality is that the there is a outrage campaign in the right wing media trying to drive anger about some perceived victimhood in people who have largely been privaledged all their life. They would have found something else instead.

Read the Wiki on his 2016 campaign. Or pretty much anything he said on race prior to the campaign.

That he attracted votes from anyone without white skin is amazing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump

Don't just send me a random dump wiki dump. Give me actual racist things he said in 2016.

It's not racist to push baseless claims the opposition who is black was born in Africa and not qualified to run for office ?

How else would you define racism if not across xenophobic lines by the color of ones skin ?

Obama was not his opposition, and that was not his campaign.

So when Trump admitted on Howard Stern that he likes to walk in on naked teenage girls because his role of running the teen universe beauty pageant allows him to get away with that, that is ok because he wasn't running a campaign at the time?

Jump to 1:38 https://youtu.be/kikTv0I8XVw?si=VVfSpMDt7rKEIcRJ

What the heck are you talking about?

I’m sorry that the volume of racist statements he has made means that you have to scroll down. The below link should take you straight there.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump#2...

So you can't give me a single racist statement he made.

For the risk of feeding a troll:

>There are places in America that are among the most dangerous in the world. You go to places like Oakland. Or Ferguson. The crime numbers are worse. Seriously," and retweeted a false claim that 81% of white murder victims were killed by black people.

> "We've just seen many, many crimes getting worse all the time, and as Maine knows—a major destination for Somali refugees—right, am I right?"

Just 2 of them.

How are either of those sentences "racist"?

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