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> You cannot make people work for you and hoard all the profits while they are stuck with fixed salaries, without in the process developing strong feelings on why you're entitled to do that and how they deserve it actually.

I wonder why we don't see more software engineering co ops?

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Because people don't like risk and if they can make a boat load of money without risk they would rather do that than make 10 boat loads of money with risk.

Eh it's because wealth accumulation has meant that those with money have too much money to fail, so to speak. Able to skirt legal boundaries and often push the cost onto the taxpayer.

Code doesn’t make engineers money.

Selling the code does.

Engineers typically aren’t very good sales people.

Why not have a marketer at the co-op?

That is how a lot of software engineering firms run in practice - the good engineers have buy in through stock options.

A lot of engineers are replaceable though. They get less stock.

Meritocracy

the myth of

Because people who would support a coop and write posts like these usually end up being disastrous company leads. Then add multiple of them and committees.

Co-ops amplify the people problems and you are now locked in a room with people who know how to code but don't know how to make money.

Because someone has to put up the money. And the people who put up the money want a return on it, or they will put their money somewhere else.

I believe Spain does this.

Annoyingly this is a hard concept to search because co-op is also another word for, basically, an internship.

Here is an example: https://autonomic.zone/

A combination of a persistent strain of rugged individualist libertarian attitudes and ego. Everyone thinking we're better than everyone else and if only we could be in charge everything would be better than if those other idiots were prevents the kind of solidarity needed to do co-ops or professional associations or partnerships like lawyers.

Imagine having 2 or more of the OP in the same organization, raging at each other about a tiny, perceived difference in outlook. You can easily have software engineering partnership but it's clear that a person like the OP would destroy any organization, no matter the structure, which is probably why they describe themselves as an anarchist (i.e. a person with a life-long inability to adapt to any give context).

>OP would destroy any organization, no matter the structure, which is probably why they describe themselves as an anarchist (i.e. a person with a life-long inability to adapt to any give context).

Hardly 'anarchist'.

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