That is truly awful, and does reflect badly on the stewardship of the project as a whole, which is a shame. It really is amazing how toxic programming language arguments become.

I love Indian food, but I still don't want to live in India.

That's a very debatable viewpoint.

From the horribly slow typecheck that gets exponentially worse every time anyone adds a protocol extension to <very common type>, the debatable choices made with concurrency/async/actors/swift6, the only-very-recently-stable ABI, the regular titanic undertakings needed for bumping any major version that are almost unheard of in most other languages, etc.

Swift is an alright language today. Good even. But for a 10 year old language ? It aged horribly, going through senseless breaking changes just to fit Apple's needs. It's fine if you're locked in on Apple's platforms, but any other language doing that would have been set on fire already. Look at how painful the python2/python3 split was: Swift did worse than that, _four_ times.

There is something incredibly weird about people associated with Apple. I don’t know what it is but I think people are not wrong to describe it as a cult like mentality sometimes. But they notoriously do not like any criticism no matter how polite or how valid.

They actually are not. Take a look at say the two most popular languages to come out of Google being Go and Dart… none of those communities ever really feel hard done by, the tooling is great, the documentation is amazing, it runs everywhere, it’s fast, it’s easy to work with, has excellent cross language interop and they are just generally well supported.

I think you’re just going on vibes here but it’s kind of bullshit when you think about it for more than a moment.

Kotlin, the Android language, isn't owned by Google. it's from Jetbrains. Picking Kotlin is one of a few great decisions Google has done for Android IMO.