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How are you managing the initial ICE offer/response negotiation without a relay server?

I do have server relay to setup webrtc connection and maintain session ids until those active.

upd: No relay for messages, messages are sent p2p

Even for messages, you may need a TURN server depending on the NAT configuration of the clients.

Apparently this is something I need to research as some people have problems using pinsend behind the NAT