OK, great. All I'm saying is until we really have videos (or equivalent empirical analysis) of these use cases, it's hard to assess these claims.

Jobs comprise different tasks, some more amenable to LLMs than others. My view is that where scepticism exists amongst professional senior engineers, its probably well-founded and grounded in the kinds of tasks that they are engaged with.

I'd imagine everyone in the debate is using LLMs to some degree; and that it's mostly about what productivity factor we imagine exists.