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Why is that? AWS has availability zones all around the globe, and 8 across the EU.

Strong agree. Working with European gov partners lately, and the further they can run from closed source USA infrastructure, the better. There are immense amounts of resources and political capital being spent down on this, and only more to come

because AWS is an american company, and right now the US is hostile to the rest of the world. probably similar to how US companies view working with a Russian or Chinese company.

Unfortunately AWS across the EU are still subsidiaries of an American corporation and therefore subject to the CLOUD Act, which allows US authorities to compel access to data stored by American companies anywhere in the world, including their European subsidiaries. This creates a direct conflict with GDPR's data protection requirements and EU digital sovereignty principles.

I wasn't aware either. Is GCP and Azure similarly viewed in the EU? You run out of cloud providers pretty quickly.

Definitely. In a lot of companies (especially in Germany) management is looking how they can reduce their dependency on US clouds. For example by moving to something like Scaleway, the LIDL (Schwarz digits) cloud, etc.

Getting deeper into US clouds is not something which aligns with the "goal on the horizon" of most managements.

+1 to this concern from our Very Large customers in the EU.

Today, AWS, GCP, etc. are omnipresent, so there are plenty of counterexamples; however, the growing concern is, "How do we become less reliant on AWS in the next decade?" There is no answer to that today, but this adds growing friction for any USA-based B2B vendors who implicitly say "we will increase your ties to the USA forever". This concern about hyperscalers predates recent counter-USA movements, and feels like a one-way road.

Never read Faust, huh?

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