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They already have the SQL Server Management Studio[1], which seems to cover similar ground?

I'm assuming they might want to move SSMS to VSCode in time, so trying it out by covering new ground, PostgreSQL, makes sense to me.

[1]: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/ssms/sql-server-management...

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No, it has a different purpose; VS Code extension and the former ADS are targeted for development, while SSMS is for server and database administration. I am a heavy user of SSMS and can do everything I ever need there, I don't use the VS Code extension for MS SQL even if I have it installed and I use VS Code quite a lot. This is because I am also acting as a backup and supervisor for our DBA team, so I am involved in DBA work.

SSMS is also for Development, I've been using it for that for 20 years

Yes, it's good!

Same here, much better than the VS tooling for SQL Server, including all the Transact-SQL support.

I still miss the tool it replaced, SQL Query Analyzer/Profiler. To this day it's my favourite SQL 'IDE'.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/archive/msdn-magazine/2005...

Those features/tools are still part of SSMS today.

Yeah, it's specifically the old applications I miss.

They were really well designed, incredibly snappy and responsive. When SSMS was launched it was really slow and clunky on my computer.

I switched to Postgres around that time so I'm 20 years out of touch at this point.

I had forgotten about query analyzer, didn't it exist alongside ssms? I think I used to roll it out when things got really serious

Query Analyzer was eventually superseded by SSMS but there was an overlap period IIRC.

I agree, I work on an application with a lot of business logic in SQL and SSMS ends up being my primary development IDE because of that.

Lead PM for SQL in VS Code here. I’m glad to hear SSMS is working well for you! I’d love to better understand why VS Code doesn’t meet your needs in the same way.

We’re actively working to improve the experience, and learning what works for you in SSMS would be incredibly valuable.

I just said what Microsoft is targeting the tools for, not how they can be used.

SSMS is what my nightmares are made of

But it's only for Windows

In my experience, MSSQL shops are far more likely to be using Windows already than PGSQL shops, so that's just yet another reason for why PGSQL was a good first choice for a VSCode plugin IMHO.

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