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The manor criticism of them is that they are just phone apps pointlessly shoved into an extra piece of hardware. What about them do you think was directionally correct? I.e. why not just use your phone?

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"phone" is over - I would just make better devices, there would be a communications device, you could call it a phone or whatever. (Frankly: I just genuinely believe I could do a really good job here is all, I have no real reason to believe that except pure ego, I'm fine admitting that)

I moved back to a flip phone (sonim xp3+) and love it as a piece of hardware. Built like a stone I could skip. Hold down a number for speed dial. Flip it closed to hang up.

I just want a competent personal assistant on speed dial I can talk to in private.

Saying the phone is over because of AI is like saying websites are over because of AI. Frankly, complete nonsense.

Nothing to do with AI. Phone is over because the phone is over, AI or not, young people have no interest in telephones and apple are laurels resting. https://www.skygroup.sky/article/call-declined-

By that metric, "Phone" has been over the moment iPhone was released. Because it's a computer, not a phone.

Its been over for almost 2 decades so not sure what the point of calling that out is.

Well I wasn't quite old enough to compete in big business then, and even if I was, the smart phone needed to get long enough in the tooth that alternative communication continuities became robust, that time is in and around... now.

A device with 96% market share in the developed and developing world, that is also a fashion item, that most adults spend a good chunk of their waking life staring at… is over.

I do love HN at times, I really do.

In my case smart phones never started, I did and do find the form factor aggravating for everything but phone calls and reading but they aren’t remotely over.

Over does not mean dead, the fax machine is long over, doesn't mean it's dead. The phone will take a long time to die, but it's certainly over for the phone.

So your definition of over is something that will die at some point in time.

Guess the Earth is over because in a few billion years the Sun will expand.

Some helpful reading for you:

https://www.google.com/search?q=technology+adoption+curve https://ca.indeed.com/career-advice/career-development/what-...

Would be helpful if it had anything to do with what we are discussing.

If you’d have said saturated I may have agreed but the adoption curve flattens because everyone who will adopt it has adopted it.

By that (and your apparent) definition of over, houses are over, microwaves are over, cookers are over, electricity is over…

> A device with 96% market share in the developed and developing world

honestly that sounds ripe for disruption

"Phone as in the protocol" might be over but the idea of a voice only channel for synchronous communication is not.

When cars came along the horse was over but the carriage bit is still going strong!

I agree that “phone” is over but I think it’s possible that “device” is over as well

My prediction is that "phone" is not over, every lackluster product since the dawn of the iphone has been heralded as an iphone killer.

Billions will be spent to realize that screens are useful.

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