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Just make sure to not mention all those efforts to your date partner, lest she cringes out of existence :)

Probably shouldn't be dating anyone that thinks self-improvement is something to look down on.

Self improvement is one thing, "go on coaching sessions to increase your confidence and how you socialize" & "buy dating coaches who understand the psychology behind dating and successful relationships" are a completely different beast.

This is just streamlining process of how to become desirable. Nerds with money can afford to even the odds VS their more successful peers who manage to do it naturally. Nothing cringe about that.

Based on the fact that you just wrote "streamlining process of how to become desirable", we will probably never see eye to eye on what is cringe :)

Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Yeah honestly I think this attitude is shit. Maybe you were born with beauty and charisma but not everyone was. You're really going to say "you're not allowed to learn what I got for free"?

Pretty low dude.

Oh don't you worry, I also had to learn how to fit in the world, and I'm not particularly beautiful.

But getting coaching, or thinking of attractiveness as a problem to solve, optimise and streamline ? This is where I object.

So if you're naturally unattractive you deserve to stay that way... I mean... that's depressing...

> This is where I object.

Why?

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