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So are there any "basically respectable" motherboard manufacturers? Or is there a similar story about each of the big players?

Asking for a friend who is thinking about building a new PC soon.

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All the consumer brands are pozzed. My last build (i7-14700K) used an MSI board. Their secureboot is still broken. The BIOS setup is complete mess, and all the settings are reset after a BIOS update. I have to unplug and replug my USB keyboard after a poweroff, or it doesn't work. But I insisted on a board without RGB lights, and that limited the selection. Computers are over.

There really needs to be an open source project for a PC motherboard.

Just a few days ago people were talking about this on the kicad discord. A chinese team made an open hardware x86_64 motherboard and published it not too long ago. Then they were essentially wiped off the face of the planet.

That was the day I learned you literally cannot develop a computer motherboard without Intel's permission. Turns out Intel is no different than the likes of Nintendo.

Yes, if you want to go that route, you'll be better off going with RISC-V.

I absolutely want to go with RISC-V longer-term, but it seems we're still a few years away from RISC-V boards being a pragmatic choice for the average workstation, unless I've missed some recent development.

I doubt that.

Chinese "tinker" has been making countless "x99" motherboard that reuse consumer chipset like h81 or b85.

I don't think Intel approve that

Asrock (sub-brand of Asus but seemingly independent in the product and dev side) has been fine for me over the ~10 years I've bought their mobos. There was the thing a few months ago with X870 mobos that were apparently frying CPUs, but I think that was not sufficiently proven to be their fault?

That said, in their X670 / B650 they have the same setting as what this article is about, and it could be equally as broken on the software side as Asus's is, but I wouldn't know because I don't use Windows so I disabled it.

Asus and AsRock are separate since 2010.

Its new owner since 2010 is still part of the Asus group, but sure it's technically a different company from Asus proper.

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