Mill as a direct style build tool

OT: I really like Li Haoyi's work in the Scala community, trying to bring Python's straightforward programming model to Scala.

I've been wondering if there is an equivalent in the Rust ecosystem. I think https://github.com/facet-rs/facet is going in the right direction

In Li Haoyi's recent talk he shows how incredibly fast Java compiler is.

Also demonstrates how much overhead comes from Maven and Gradle.

If Java build feels sluggish, know that first 50s is lost due to maven.

Mill still has rough edges. The project is evolving fast and things change, but it is a great tool.

The BSP support in IDEs is IMO still work in progress (not related to Mill itself) so for JVM languages, Maven and Gradle still have a leg up.

I'd rather deal with 50s of lost time due to Maven than hours of lost time dealing with Scala.

Can you explain what you mean?

You need to be able to write Scala to use mill. It’s a non-starter for every single Java developer.

Does Mill plan to have something like Bazel’s Remote Execution?

Not yet.

It is a build engineering tool. Build engineering is either hidden behind corporate doors or underrated.

Does it support source dependencies over stupid jar files?